The existence of the Christian God have been confirmed again (Page 3)

Date: 28-06-2011 9:16 pm (12 years ago) | Author: osmond eze
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- CammyWhite at 6-07-2011 02:06 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  5-07-2011 01:56 PM
@Cammywhite,
Certainly your position,not mine.

It seems a fair summary of what your Bible states.
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- hosbert at 6-07-2011 07:54 AM (12 years ago)
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@Cammywhite,
Certainly your position,not mine.

It seems a fair summary of what your Bible states.


This certainly cannot suffice as a fair summary of the Bible.You can only give a fair summary if you consider the actions of the people that were destroyed.When you place them side by side and objectively appraise both ends,there and then would you talk about fair summary rather than single out what one side for condemnation.Your summary is bereft of objectivity.
 
 
 
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- CammyWhite at 6-07-2011 01:08 PM (12 years ago)
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@Cammywhite,
Certainly your position,not mine.

It seems a fair summary of what your Bible states.


This certainly cannot suffice as a fair summary of the Bible.You can only give a fair summary if you consider the actions of the people that were destroyed.When you place them side by side and objectively appraise both ends,there and then would you talk about fair summary rather than single out what one side for condemnation.Your summary is bereft of objectivity.

The people who were killed hadn't done anything except live in the wrong place. For you that seem to be enough to justify genocide.
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- hosbert at 6-07-2011 01:23 PM (12 years ago)
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@Cammywhite,
Certainly your position,not mine.

It seems a fair summary of what your Bible states.


This certainly cannot suffice as a fair summary of the Bible.You can only give a fair summary if you consider the actions of the people that were destroyed.When you place them side by side and objectively appraise both ends,there and then would you talk about fair summary rather than single out what one side for condemnation.Your summary is bereft of objectivity.

The people who were killed hadn't done anything except live in the wrong place. For you that seem to be enough to justify genocide[/quote]

Cammywhite
Well if you insist but don't lose sight of the fact that certain things are bound to happen no matter what we do or try to do.For instance,people that live in natural disaster prone areas or parts of the world suffer whatever calamity that befall them not because they wronged any one.Just predestination.
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- chik001 at 6-07-2011 04:45 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-07-2011 11:58 PM
Quote from: chik001 on  2-07-2011 04:21 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-07-2011 02:59 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  1-07-2011 05:03 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-07-2011 01:04 PM
Quote from: hosbert on  1-07-2011 07:21 AM
@Democray
"The wars,ethnic cleansing and genocide committed by christians...If you are sincere to yourself,you would know that the Israelites in their march to the promised land did not start the wars or killings but only fought in self defence.Or are you saying that they do not have the right to self defence?

The people who lived in the Promised Land saw the land as theirs and weren't going to just surrender to the Israelites. The Israelites were killing in self-defence much as the Germans entering Russia, and the Serbs in Bosnia, and the Hutus in Rwanda.
...there is something yous don't get...it doesn't matter if you don't get it...at this stage...
...when a program thats is written for a particular purpose...decides to do what it's not written for...it will be deleted...
...whether anyone like it or not...
...as it was said in the Holy Book...
..."Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men"....Mathew 5:13

So in your view Yahweh put people in the so-called Promised Land so that the Israelites could kill them to get that Promised Land.

That is so dumb.
...because it sounds dumb to you does not mean you are calling the shots...
...if your had been in Washington D.C..at the Lincoln Memorial...28 August 1963...and heard a baptist minister told the world about his dream...(Martin Luther King jnr)...
I bet...you will be one of them...who would have accuse him of having dementia or crying crucify him....
...simply because it would have sounded so dumb to know that...an unknown Kenyan, who is not an aristocrat...from an unremarkable village...in a Africa...the so called third world...will be used to fulfill that dream...
...nature tips the balance...
...whether you like it or not...

...read:Matthew 3:9-10

..."and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our father’; for I say to you that from these stones God is able to raise up children to Abraham.
v10 “The axe is already laid at the root of the trees; therefore every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire...

What does Martin Luther King have to do with this? And if by the "unknown Kenyan" you mean President Barack Obama, I'll ask also what does he have to do with it?

I'll repeat the point that I made; according to the OT, the Israelites went to their "Promised Land" and slaughtered the people living there - something that you called "self-defence", which I pointed out made no sense and still doesn't.

By that logic the Mongol, the Roman, the Spanish, and the British invading Iran, Gaul, Mexico, and the Americas were acting in self-defence when they decimated the locals - and don't get me started on what happened to the Aborigines, because that was not self-defence!

The Bible basically sanctioned genocide if the right people did it - which to some makes it an evil book.

...like I said earlier...you dont call the shots...
I dont think you are getting it...
...God Calls the shots...and if he sanctioned a tree that refuse to bear fruit to be cut down and throw into the fire...so be it...it doesnt matter what you think...
...if you are not doing what you are created to do...am afraid and God almighty decide to have you deleted...so it will be
...unfortunately...
...As for Obama ascendancy into the white house...
...it  was predicted...and people like you thought it sounded dumb...when the young baptist minister told about his dream in 1963...
...before it sound dumb to you doesn't mean it cannot happen...
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- chik001 at 6-07-2011 05:29 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on  3-07-2011 01:32 PM
somehow my statement got cut out........

Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-07-2011 02:59 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  1-07-2011 05:03 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-07-2011 01:04 PM
Quote from: hosbert on  1-07-2011 07:21 AM
@Democray
"The wars,ethnic cleansing and genocide committed by christians...If you are sincere to yourself,you would know that the Israelites in their march to the promised land did not start the wars or killings but only fought in self defence.Or are you saying that they do not have the right to self defence?

The people who lived in the Promised Land saw the land as theirs and weren't going to just surrender to the Israelites. The Israelites were killing in self-defence much as the Germans entering Russia, and the Serbs in Bosnia, and the Hutus in Rwanda.
...there is something yous don't get...it doesn't matter if you don't get it...at this stage...
...when a program thats is written for a particular purpose...decides to do what it's not written for...it will be deleted...
...whether anyone like it or not...
...as it was said in the Holy Book...
..."Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men"....Mathew 5:13

So in your view Yahweh put people in the so-called Promised Land so that the Israelites could kill them to get that Promised Land.

That is so dumb.
@CammyWhite....lol......I have heard christians say God made Hitler kill the Jews and the Blacks so that he(GOD) can show humans the miracle of taking the Isrealites back to Isreal...................

Again I have heard christians say the Devil put the dinosaur bones on Earth to tempt human faith in God. As they are supposed to know dinosaurs never existed since God only created Adam and Eve 6000 years ago!!!

i know you are also of God mentality.......but I ask you this......PRE-MEDITATED-MURDER

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE Amalekites?Huh??

God asked for them to be killed for not allowing Isreal pass through their town a 100yrs previously. Now, all the infants and children, oxes and oxens where not even alive or born at that time. Why kill innocent lives?


On your statement re- the Aborigines of Australia.......the fate of the red indians was worse, so is their story.....but here is an extract from an Aussie himself............

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...I can see you are becoming sloppy on your comments...due to your inability to disprove God....this is due to you limited ability to understand and explain the past...and future...unfortunately...

...right here...on this site, I asked you about an issue on Good and bad...in-relation to Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust...
...you DEMOCRAZY says that Hitler is...according to you...a whatever degree grand master ...that his deeds are can be seen or measured from different perspective...good or bad depending on how one look at it.

I am not surprised if you found it dumb that God...used Hitler's WWII to liberate Most if not all colonized nations...whos independence came about after WWII...largely due to the colonial leeches inability to maintain their hold on these territories because of shortage of manpower...

...how can you tell that infants or people killed during whatever war are innocent...? if Adolf Hitler or Osama Bin Laden was kidnapped and killed during their toddler days...I bet...you would have had the same mindset you have now...

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- hosbert at 7-07-2011 09:23 AM (12 years ago)
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@ Chika1
Thanks for reminding Democracy.
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- ajepakoromance at 7-07-2011 07:49 PM (12 years ago)
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To argue with people who consider themselves as an agent of God is a waste of time and energy.

I have very little opinion to contribute.

Num. 1, The poster of this forum is not an European, so that makes me a pagan or an atheist.

2, The poster is not a christian, according to his own comments. Thus he or she is a gentile, a philistine and a canaanites.

For this 2 reasons, i consider the poster of this forum a slave and an object or property of the christian race.

If the poster is not contented, he or she may file an objection appeal to God with the prove of the evidence listed below.

1, certificate of birth right.

2,  certificate of citizenship or nationalization via integration and inductrination.

3, Tax clearance certificate.

 Appeal can be fire to the address below.

Mr God, head of the christian race, roman catholic rome.
po, box, TO HELL WITH GOD AND IS EXISTENCE.
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- democrazy at 8-07-2011 12:37 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  6-07-2011 05:29 PM
[...I can see you are becoming sloppy on your comments...due to your inability to disprove God....this is due to you limited ability to understand and explain the past...and future...unfortunately...

...right here...on this site, I asked you about an issue on Good and bad...in-relation to Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust...
...you DEMOCRAZY says that Hitler is...according to you...a whatever degree grand master ...that his deeds are can be seen or measured from different perspective...good or bad depending on how one look at it.

I am not surprised if you found it dumb that God...used Hitler's WWII to liberate Most if not all colonized nations...whos independence came about after WWII...largely due to the colonial leeches inability to maintain their hold on these territories because of shortage of manpower...

...how can you tell that infants or people killed during whatever war are innocent...? if Adolf Hitler or Osama Bin Laden was kidnapped and killed during their toddler days...I bet...you would have had the same mindset you have now...


@chik001.....You are not serious about what you saying. Firstly, do not put words in my mouth and will advice you come up with a clip of what question you asked me and my precise answer.

See, i dont assume anything. What I say is constant and can always be verified. I can not make vague statements.....See I can tell you a lot about Adolf Hitler. The grandfather of Adolf Hitler is a member of the family that started Christianity. You can go look for Baron Rothschild. That family tree consists of the founders of your Anglican, Methodist, church of Mommon, Jehovah's Witness and many more. You have no clue what you talk about and I need not argue blindly with you.

It is very preposterous of you coming with God used Hitler. BUt what the hec, It is your GOD and that is how he acts. You have no clue the reasons for WWII and what happened, or what the Zionists movement is. Your GOD is evil, so are you!!!

@Hosbert.......you never know wetin dey do you.............I also follow Cadanre cry for you.............maybe you can further explain to your delusioned mate Chik001 that ....I quote you "

"I will also not fail to add that God is a person,hope ypu know so?"

Black or white person? please explain!!!

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- democrazy at 8-07-2011 04:58 AM (12 years ago)
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Before you add more crap just let me introduce you to some of the Prince Hall Masons who you may or may not know, but have also contributed to your mentality since 1775.

Jesse Jackson
NY Governor David Patterson
Thurgood Marshall
Count Basie
Duke Ellington
Al Sharpton
Congressman Charles Rangel
Nat King Cole
W.E.B. DuBois
Alexander Dumas
Alex Haley
Kweisi Mfume
Don King
Richard Pryor
Alexander Pushkin
Sugar Ray Robinson
Booker T. Washington

I only mentioned these, cause, like you, they are all Blacks who have no knowledge of what the main goal of the founders are. The founders are savages, they have managed to teach you savagery through the same christian religion they gave you without choice. Please get familiar with "Project Blue Beam". Your Jesus is coming soon!!!
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- hosbert at 8-07-2011 10:42 AM (12 years ago)
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@Democracy
I hate it when people extend argument just to boast their already punctured ego.The list your presented savages are actually men of substance,timber and calibre whose immense contributions to the emancipation of the black race cannot be ignored or forgotten in a hurry.Long after they had passed on,their achievements speak volume of what they stood for and represented.You and your likes like:
    Woody Allen
    Anon
    Isaac Asimov
    Dan Barker
    Annie Wood Besant
    H. Havelock Ellis
    Guy P. Harrison
    Dough Jesseph
are so confused and have always tried to confused the world wherein the former President of the United States had this to say about them
          "...No I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens,nor should they be considered as patriots.
          This nation is one under God."
Listen to the words of wisdom and return to God.The christian God do exists.The mere fact that you do not know about Him or believes in His existence cannot demystify His existence and those who believe in Him.Atheists like you only succeed in making themselves more confused than they set out.Atheism itself is a confusion called reason.What you do not know is that before their death,they always come to acknowledge the true God as trully existent.I pray you discover this before it's too late.
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- hosbert at 8-07-2011 10:56 AM (12 years ago)
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To argue with people who consider themselves as an agent of God is a waste of time and energy.

I have very little opinion to contribute.

Num. 1, The poster of this forum is not an European, so that makes me a pagan or an atheist.

2, The poster is not a christian, according to his own comments. Thus he or she is a gentile, a philistine and a canaanites.

For this 2 reasons, i consider the poster of this forum a slave and an object or property of the christian race.

If the poster is not contented, he or she may file an objection appeal to God with the prove of the evidence listed below.

1, certificate of birth right.

2,  certificate of citizenship or nationalization via integration and inductrination.

3, Tax clearance certificate.

 Appeal can be fire to the address below.

Mr God, head of the christian race, roman catholic rome.
po, box, TO HELL WITH GOD AND IS EXISTENCE.
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Mr poster or whatever you call yourself,there is no point calling another names.It only shows that you are a lower mind who have little or nothing to contribute but just to rave and rant like a drowning man that you are,needing help.If christianity is to you an indoctrination,atheism is even a worst indoctrination.Argue on issues and not bitterness. 
 
 
 
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- ajepakoromance at 8-07-2011 12:39 PM (12 years ago)
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To argue with people who consider themselves as an agent of God is a waste of time and energy.

I have very little opinion to contribute.

Num. 1, The poster of this forum is not an European, so that makes him a pagan or an atheist.

2, The poster is not a christian, according to his own comments. Thus he or she is a gentile, a philistine and a canaanites.

For this 2 reasons, i consider the poster of this forum a slave and an object or property of the christian race.

If the poster is not contented, he or she may file an objection appeal to God with the prove of the evidence listed below.

1, certificate of birth right.

2,  certificate of citizenship or nationalization via integration and inductrination.

3, Tax clearance certificate.

 Appeal can be fire to the address below.

Mr God, head of the christian race, roman catholic rome.
po, box, TO HELL WITH GOD AND IS EXISTENCE.



Mr poster or whatever you call yourself,there is no point calling another names.It only shows that you are a lower mind who have little or nothing to contribute but just to rave and rant like a drowning man that you are,needing help.If you are a breaded indoctrinated christianity, by  the way that is you and God problem. If you are called an atheist bcus you refused to accept a white man in an image of jesus or pope your God what is mine own wahala about that?...Argue on issues and not bitterness. 
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- hosbert at 8-07-2011 05:57 PM (12 years ago)
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@ajepakoromance
I do not even understanding what you are driving at,better back off,ok.
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- ajepakoromance at 8-07-2011 08:02 PM (12 years ago)
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Children of God like this poster are zombies. If you don't understand yourself, y not ask jesus sheep.
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- chik001 at 9-07-2011 11:59 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on  8-07-2011 12:37 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  6-07-2011 05:29 PM
[...I can see you are becoming sloppy on your comments...due to your inability to disprove God....this is due to you limited ability to understand and explain the past...and future...unfortunately...

...right here...on this site, I asked you about an issue on Good and bad...in-relation to Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust...
...you DEMOCRAZY says that Hitler is...according to you...a whatever degree grand master ...that his deeds are can be seen or measured from different perspective...good or bad depending on how one look at it.

I am not surprised if you found it dumb that God...used Hitler's WWII to liberate Most if not all colonized nations...whos independence came about after WWII...largely due to the colonial leeches inability to maintain their hold on these territories because of shortage of manpower...

...how can you tell that infants or people killed during whatever war are innocent...? if Adolf Hitler or Osama Bin Laden was kidnapped and killed during their toddler days...I bet...you would have had the same mindset you have now...


@chik001.....You are not serious about what you saying. Firstly, do not put words in my mouth and will advice you come up with a clip of what question you asked me and my precise answer.

See, i dont assume anything. What I say is constant and can always be verified. I can not make vague statements.....See I can tell you a lot about Adolf Hitler. The grandfather of Adolf Hitler is a member of the family that started Christianity. You can go look for Baron Rothschild. That family tree consists of the founders of your Anglican, Methodist, church of Mommon, Jehovah's Witness and many more. You have no clue what you talk about and I need not argue blindly with you.

It is very preposterous of you coming with God used Hitler. BUt what the hec, It is your GOD and that is how he acts. You have no clue the reasons for WWII and what happened, or what the Zionists movement is. Your GOD is evil, so are you!!!

@Hosbert.......you never know wetin dey do you.............I also follow Cadanre cry for you.............maybe you can further explain to your delusioned mate Chik001 that ....I quote you "

"I will also not fail to add that God is a person,hope ypu know so?"

Black or white person? please explain!!!



...am not surprised if anything I say sound unbelievable to yous...
...I am not a Muslim and I don't live in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan where information is controlled...
...history...how many of such history have we had...countless...written by the same people whom you detest...
...they pushed you from Christianity to a little philosophy which I believe landed you to atheism and as a conspiracy theorist...some day...in the near feature...I will not be surprise to hear you argue that your live is an illusion base on your mind perception...
...what Makes you think you and your fellow God/Christian haters are not delusioned and evil...?
...I hate tell you why...
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- hosbert at 9-07-2011 12:42 PM (12 years ago)
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@ajepakoromance
I don't join issues with frustrated,confused and I concur personality like you cos you don't even have a view or position of your own.When you have issue to contribute,then you will hear from me.I do not know why the moderator still allow you on this site.
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- harold634 at 9-07-2011 03:08 PM (12 years ago)
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@ajepakoromance
I don't join issues with frustrated,confused and I concur personality like you cos you don't even have a view or position of your own.When you have issue to contribute,then you will hear from me.I do not know why the moderator still allow you on this site.
The red word and his cohort are worst than fraustration and confusion.
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- CammyWhite at 10-07-2011 12:24 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  6-07-2011 01:23 PM
@Cammywhite,
Certainly your position,not mine.

It seems a fair summary of what your Bible states.


This certainly cannot suffice as a fair summary of the Bible.You can only give a fair summary if you consider the actions of the people that were destroyed.When you place them side by side and objectively appraise both ends,there and then would you talk about fair summary rather than single out what one side for condemnation.Your summary is bereft of objectivity.

The people who were killed hadn't done anything except live in the wrong place. For you that seem to be enough to justify genocide

Cammywhite
Well if you insist but don't lose sight of the fact that certain things are bound to happen no matter what we do or try to do.For instance,people that live in natural disaster prone areas or parts of the world suffer whatever calamity that befall them not because they wronged any one.Just predestination.[/quote]

So genocide is just another disaster in your eyes? I suppose being Jewish in Europe and Russia between 1939 and 1946 must have been just bad luck! That is just ridiculous, maybe even pathetic. 
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- CammyWhite at 10-07-2011 12:31 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  8-07-2011 10:42 AM
the former President of the United States had this to say about them "...No I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens,nor should they be considered as patriots. This nation is one under God."
Listen to the words of wisdom and return to God.

You are quoting probably the worst and most foolish leader the US ever had. You can be a patriotic American and an atheist; I've met two in my time. Next time, don't quote a bonehead like the Shrub.
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