The existence of the Christian God have been confirmed again (Page 6)

Quote from: hosbert on 18-07-2011 06:35 AM

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What I make of that is that you can write up a storm, but it still doesn't make Christianity anything but a religion!

hmmm... Cammywhite,you have chosen to close your mind to reason.

Holy shit on a shingle!! POT, meet KETTLE!

Posted: at 18-07-2011 07:25 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

...Is this a contradiction on your person...or what...?

Posted: at 19-07-2011 09:15 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

He just made a general statement without a reference to either the Bible or the Quran and ended up that God said so.Each truth I speak on this Thread is sufficiently backed with the relevant scriptures.I do not see how he will be able to beat  or win me on the issue under consideration.In response to your question,it cannot be a contradiction on me because the opinion expressed therein is entirely his and cannot contradict my person or position so far advanced.I am not sounding like I never understood whatever gibberish he stated in his post.It is also possible he has not be following in all my attempts to educate him.

Posted: at 19-07-2011 08:50 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

Do you know what that means?

Posted: at 20-07-2011 12:06 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Democracy
I have always said that you are mischievious and always playing to the gallery.I did respond to Cammywhite's claims earlier on  as could be seen in the above qoute.Even your last post was duely addressed but your poor comprehension ability made it difficult for you to see.You have not ceased to amaze to me.All the issues you claimed as facts in your previous posts are mere references to records and materials put together by other people,yet you disagree with Bible truths.

On the Quran analogy you purport was meant to help my understanding,like I stated  above and want to recapitulate here,cannot stand on the same plank with the truths I have always marshalled out in my submissions.You just made a general view without tying your claim to a verse or a particular portion of the Quran you purport to contain such.Your co-traveller on-your-journey to no where would overlook such jaundiced and lame analogy.Where is the wisdom then? Point of correction:I never made ststements but truths backed by the relevant scriptures.

Posted: at 20-07-2011 09:08 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

[@hosbert

You are the one that's going off point. I am telling you and showing you that the existence of your GOD is in doubt and is very very untrue.

I have asked you questions regarding your answers on this forum, BUT yet, all you do is make statements offerring no proof or fact.

You did not answer the question of if GOD is a person! (I already started a fight on this to know more)
I then took it GOD's person as per your inputs is manifested in Jesus Christ.

So again, I asked you who built the church after your wrong assumption. You did not answer but come make statements again.

Now, I will ask you this again..........As per your faith and believe system.

DO you and Christianity believe in ONE GOD. Where can you support that view?/quote]

@Democracy
The last time I checked,You made references to written materials by men like you and I to substantiate your claims that God's existence is in doubt or untrue,yet when I refer you to another material and a more authentic one at that,you try to trivilize and discredit my position by reaching to what you percieve as inconsistencies in the Bible as a ground upon which my position should not and must not stand.I want point to point proof of every issue raised.I remembered telling you in that fight that as human persons,we are our words.A man who does not go down on his words is considered a man of integrity right? Inspite of whatever inconsistencies you seemed to have seen in the Bible,it has remained infailable and immutable,a point indicating that He that spoke is alive and seing to it that the words come to pass (Isaiah 55:11)

Also,do you think the church is the buildings or the different denominations in the christendom? Of course no,hell No.The church is a believer hence the declaration in 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 that your body is the Temple of the Holy Ghost.The statement of Christ to Peter Matthew 16:18 about building the church was about the confession of Peter that He (Christ) is the Christ,Son of the Living God.Christ actually meant that that declaration of Him as the The Christ is the truth upon which the gospel is reconcilation of the world to God would be based.May be a study of verses 13-20 would help you understand this:

13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed[a] in heaven.”
20 Then He commanded His disciples that they should tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ.

As to whether I believ in One God ,yes I do.I support my view with this scripture below:           
 
1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
 
I replied you long ago but you keep asking the same question Democracy.So between you and I,who does not understand the other.
 
 
 
 

Posted: at 20-07-2011 09:34 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

Oh, Democrazy is definitely cleaning your clock!

Posted: at 20-07-2011 10:02 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

When in the course of an argument people no longer back their positions with relevant and necessary material facts or truth but instead resought to pessimism and ego boasting stance,then it is either they have ran out of ideas or simply unwilling to learn from/about others.

Posted: at 20-07-2011 10:26 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

@Democracy
Already your have answered your own question which is that my reasonability is dependent or premised on my proving who authored the Bible.Aside this,there is no literature,work of art or scientific knowledge that is not debatable.I do not remember ever saying that the content of the Bible is not debatable if such debate is for the purpose of learning and understanding deeper truths contained therein;not for the advancing of preconcieved and closed understanding of the scriptures.A careful reappraisal or reframing of your question so as to accomodate and fully or exhaustively consider reasonability not on the context of answering a question from the Bible would be a more objective and comprehensive.

Posted: at 21-07-2011 07:09 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

@Hosbert, you dont need to string grammer together for me............I know Cammy will understand all this your grammer, me I dont.

All I am trying to tell you is this..............

I am African, we have several dieties that the English have come to call gods. The only way we met the English was when they came to enslave us, kill us, and take us away from our home to work and build their own homes without any pay or kindness. They claimed all our gods are evil and killed anyone that worships as we did before. SO I QUESTION WHAT THEY FORCED UNTO US AT A TIME I CAN ASK QUESTIONS WITHOUT GETTING KILLED.

You keep stating the same way they did, that whatever is contained in the bible is TRUE and nothing else matters. My fore fathers, the 1st set to step in Jamaica asked John Hawkins, who was captain of the slave ship called "JESUS CHRIST". tHEY ASKED, "WHERE IS JESUS?" THEY GOT NO ANSWER BACK AND WHERE BEATEN AND ENSLAVED ALONG WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

This period was 1655 AD about 400 years ago. Before this we had the Muslims, but I will not go into that here. So I have to find my way to WHAT IS TRUE.

ARE THESE KILLERS RIGHT? that their GOD is better than ours and has helped them conquer and enslaved us?
So I check a few years back, before they came to visit us what had happened. It turned out they had also killed all the RED INDIANS OF AMERICA
along with ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA.

Then I find out that in 1635 they burnt WILLIAM TINSDALE who was the initial person that translated the bible into english. WHY? I started to search!! I have questions, and so far I have noticed that the same killings and enslavement are permitted in the bible and have been practised and worshipped by this same group of people. So I ask again...........WHO ARE THE GENTILES?

Posted: at 21-07-2011 04:17 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac