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Na until dis man run go market go pull yim cloth na yim people go stop to go yim church. What a pity. A pastor changing women like wrapper have the mouth to George. Reply
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if what okotie say is true it makes sense a bit Replyif the anti Christ was to come. it would only come through the church which is the true one (The catholic church) most churches are completely lost . That makes me wonder if we serve the same God so members should be prayerful and focus on their relationship with God for guidance. No need to insult . Insulting are no fruits from true christians
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OKOTIE MY FELLOW WEEDITE,IS TIME TO COLLECT YOUR WEEDERSHIP Reply
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What everrrrrrr. Reply
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IS OKOTIE BETTER of CLIFORD ORJI? Reply
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I don't even regard Mr Chris Okotie as a man of God, He is a confused school drop-out who is simply looking for a cheap publicity. ReplyChris, I'd rather suggest you go back to school because I can see the devastating effect it's having on you.
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Quote from: OLYFEM on 3-12-2013 02:35 AM Though, Okotie is not among the very few men I respect because of his antecedents, his pedigree and claims, there is however a little fact in the 'self -acclaim-pastor' negative opinion of the Catholic Church. Or, how could you explain a congregation praying through / to "Holy Mary". When it is written that prayer through JESUS CHRIST to God Almighty is the only ACKNOWLEDGED process to reach God. How could you explain the use of Rosary for prayer as it symbolise praying with oracle instruments. How could you explain bowing down to worship the status of Christ and "Holy Mary" when it is written that 'thou shall not bow down for/to any image either fashioned with heavenly symbols, the earth, or under the earth. How can you explain why most Catholic Church dont encourage their Congregation to come to church with their Bible. How can you explain the 'holy water' in Catholic Church premises. to mention is endless. but let us ask ourselves, his the doctrine of Christ second coming, Salvation, Holiness and Righteousness being preached in Churches (including Catholic and the Ignorant fool's assembly ie. Okotie) ? The Answer is NO!!!! Churches has become business Empire!!! General Overseers are now the Billionaires at the expense of the Tithe Payers just as the Government Official are Millionaires at the expense of Tax Payers. Riches, Wealth, Financial Breakthrough, Prosperity, etc is now the language of the men of God, yet we call this period an END TIME. Preaching Holiness,Righteousness and Salvation is the importance of a godly Assembly at END TIME. Not preaching payment of Tithes, Riches, Wealth, Financial Breakthrough, Prosperity, etc. CHRISTIAN BEWARE!!!! OPEN YOUR EYES!!! JESUS WILL COME NOW, NOT SOON, BUT NOW!!! ARE YOU LIVING RIGHT? ARE YOU GENUINELY SAVED? DON'T BOW DOWN FOR IMAGES, God forbids it!!!! DON'T PRAY THROUGH 'HOLY MARY'. It is WRONG!!! Thumbs up for all your points! Well said.. I wish someone could help me out with answers to those questions???
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Quote from: OLYFEM on 3-12-2013 02:35 AM Though, Okotie is not among the very few men I respect because of his antecedents, his pedigree and claims, there is however a little fact in the 'self -acclaim-pastor' negative opinion of the Catholic Church. Or, how could you explain a congregation praying through / to "Holy Mary". When it is written that prayer through JESUS CHRIST to God Almighty is the only ACKNOWLEDGED process to reach God. How could you explain the use of Rosary for prayer as it symbolise praying with oracle instruments. How could you explain bowing down to worship the status of Christ and "Holy Mary" when it is written that 'thou shall not bow down for/to any image either fashioned with heavenly symbols, the earth, or under the earth. How can you explain why most Catholic Church dont encourage their Congregation to come to church with their Bible. How can you explain the 'holy water' in Catholic Church premises. to mention is endless. but let us ask ourselves, his the doctrine of Christ second coming, Salvation, Holiness and Righteousness being preached in Churches (including Catholic and the Ignorant fool's assembly ie. Okotie) ? The Answer is NO!!!! Churches has become business Empire!!! General Overseers are now the Billionaires at the expense of the Tithe Payers just as the Government Official are Millionaires at the expense of Tax Payers. Riches, Wealth, Financial Breakthrough, Prosperity, etc is now the language of the men of God, yet we call this period an END TIME. Preaching Holiness,Righteousness and Salvation is the importance of a godly Assembly at END TIME. Not preaching payment of Tithes, Riches, Wealth, Financial Breakthrough, Prosperity, etc. CHRISTIAN BEWARE!!!! OPEN YOUR EYES!!! JESUS WILL COME NOW, NOT SOON, BUT NOW!!! ARE YOU LIVING RIGHT? ARE YOU GENUINELY SAVED? DON'T BOW DOWN FOR IMAGES, God forbids it!!!! DON'T PRAY THROUGH 'HOLY MARY'. It is WRONG!!! Thumbs up for all your points! Well said.. I wish someone could help me out with answers to those questions???
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Quote from: cyrilamx on 2-12-2013 09:57 AM P okotie is not the first nor be the last to view the catholic church...the church of all times, the beacon of western civilisation as assembly of the devil. It is an institution men from within and without have tried to destroyed but failed ....it is an ark both of sinners and saints. It is the only force that has outlive empires, kingdom/chiefdom that have tried to destroyed it. ...to the ends of the earth the catholic church tru out 20 centuries have taken the gospel....the saving message of Christ...the same bible a morally bankrupt Okotie relied on in condemning the the holy catholic and apostolic church ws canonised by the church fathers chaired by the great African, st. Augustine in 393 and 397 AD and presented to pope damasus for aproval. It is an undisputed history. So tmany like okotie who labelled the church anti-christ ended up becoming catholic. He is not even as learned as most catholic priests who have renounced worldly care to pursue a life of Solitude and prayer with God. Okotie has biting more than he can chew...I need a debate wit him. I do not think it's wise to start an unnecessary debate to proof ur point.
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Okotie. Leave igbo and beautiful women u will be normal again. Advise for u. Idiot man Reply
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I thought Pastor Chris had brains. He just confirmed that he is a spiritually cursed person. He has failed as a Pastor, failed as a Politician, failed as a husband and he is about failing as a human being. Sex fiend! Reply
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I will not say anything to avoid punishment from GOD Reply
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I'm not here to talk in favour of the Pastor but, please tell me what the Catholic church is doing for your black derrière,,, also who brought slavery and slow down the development of the whole continent (Africa),,,can you name at least one war your so called anointed pope stopped on this planet,,,,, Is there at least just one miracle your anointed pope performed that make you believe he is anointed,,,, how many free Catholic schools there is in Nigeria & on this planet ,,,, How many human being your Catholic church feed on this planet earth,,,, My people are dying for lack of understanding,,, Yet you give this your pope tithe every Sunday,,,,do the Math, how much your church get every Sunday, it's millions of Dollars we are talking about here, they get money well well,,,, And you think your catholic church is not a business,,, is it so? please tell us why they sell tickets to visit the vatican... if you think I'm lying check this link for Vatican ticket http://www.getyourguide.co.uk/vatican-museum-l2738/?partner_id=1DD5E&cmp=ga&gclid=CICs6cr8kbsCFWjmwgod9nEAEg some of them are £450, do you really think God is in such things, do you really think you will get healing if you visit the Vatican....you do not know GOD and you are playing with Him...Y' ALL A BUNCH OF FOOLS AND YOU WILL SURELY WAKE UP WHEN IT'S TOO LATE.... Reply--------------------------------------------------------- I will advice you to shut your mouth and stop saying what you don't know, i wonder which planet you are from, you are showing a link that has nothing to do with the worship of God, if you dont understand the meaning of museum you keep quite, how do you want them to pay people who work there? how do you expect them to take care of the place? how do you expect them to maintain that place? sometimes we dont think before we talk, i have been to Vatican 2 times even Isreal 3 times but that has nothning to do with judging a fellow church, if you dont want to be a christian stay on your own and worship nothing, the catholic don't beg people to come worship with them. And who told you the Catholics are not helping the world, infact i dont have time to answer you because you are not a catholic, about 30% of the world population survives through the help of catholic if you don't know, i had my free education through the help of catholic, i spent 4 yours at the catholic university of California free and so do millions of people around the world. Dont judge so you wont be judged, i bet you, your so called Chris Devil Satan Okotie is looking for members and he knows that catholic got the biggest population when it comes to Christianity but my dear he has failed because he will win no soul from catholic
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Matthew 7:15-20. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Reply
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hmmmm..ok Reply
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Thanks for the compliment pastor... and dont forget something ... Before you point your fingers at US catholic make sure you are clean .. Reply#I AM PROUDLY A CATHOLIC#
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Quote from: gbojac on 2-12-2013 08:15 PM Wetin concern me with mother theresa of calcuta, I repeat of c.a.l.c.u.t.a, I thank GOD for the precision Mr Jasitop,,, You tried my friend, you really tried,,,, I don't know how many cobo she gave you and your people,,,,,me and the people for my village didn't get anything ohooo, if not for Tv I wouldn't know that your mother calcuta, since you like 'am for what she done for you can you tell us what she gave you,,,,I don't know whether she don die a catholic or a muslim but, I don't remember her talking about, only Jesus-Christ save...Let clap for mother calcuta as she don make the catholic church big... I will not stop comparing things unless I'm not human being again, I will continue to judge and compare thing because Judging is also Comparing Material gains is not a hallmark or motivation for a follower of Christ. Judgement is different from Comparison. Read her Bibliography.
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MY FELLOW NIGERIANS ReplySO IF THE POPE IS NOT A SATANIST, WHAT ARE ALL THOES SHRINES DOING UNDER THE CATACOMBS IN THE VATICAN?? CATHOLICS ARE NOT WORSHIPPING GOD!!!!! THEY ARE WORSHIPPING MITHRA…….IT IS ALL ABOUT MITHRAISM……HA HA HA IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS, MITHRA IS SAID TO BE BORN 25TH DECEMBER JUST LIKE JESUS CHRIST……..A LIE….JESUS WAS NOT BORN ON THIS DAY. MITHRA IS SAID TO HAVE 12 APOSTLES, SO DID JESUS CHRIST……. THE EARLY CHRISTIANS OF St PETER COPIED RITUALS FROM MITHRA……. THE ORIGINAL SIGN OF CHRISTIANS WAS SYMBOLISED BY A FISH…….. St PETER TURNED IT INTO A CROSS……… THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION IS POLLUTED WITH IDOLATRY…….. ALL YOU CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY FOOLED WITH FALSE IDOLS….. JESUS CHRIST HAD BROTHERS AND 2 SISTERS IF YOU DID NOT KNOW…….. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN LIED TO ALL FOR MONEY AND POLITICAL GAIN……. CHRIS OKOTIE IS NOT TELLING YOU THE WHOLE TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTIANITY SO AS NOT TO IMPLICATE HIMSELF…..
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Quote from: DaveeJosh on 2-12-2013 06:24 PM THE BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH: Nero Claudia Caesar Augustus Germanicus, born in 37 AD, becomes a Roman Emperor after succeeding His uncle Claudia from 54 to 68 AD. Nero is educated at the feet of the philosopher Seneca whom he eventually causes to commit suicide. He is the Last of the Julio-Claudanian Dynasty. In 64 AD, most of Rome is destroyed in The Great Fire of Rome which many Romans believe he has started. The fire is blamed on Christians. Nero’s rule is often associated with Tyranny and extravagance. He is known for many executions including that of His own mother and probable murder by poison of his stepbrother. He is infamously known as the emperor who fiddled while Rome burned and as the early persecutor of Christians. He was known for having captured Christians to burn them in His garden at night for a source of light. On 324AD, a Roman emperor Constantine the great who built the Vatican converts into Christianity. In Constantine reign, the once persecuted religion becomes the official creed of the mightiest religion on earth. Christian bishops have real power now. Catholicism is now a state religion and the state church. The Roman emperor comes up with another word, heresy. Heretics are people who do not believe in catholic’s faith. He later states that if you do not believe in Catholic faith, you are in league with the evil one. A law is passed that all heretics be put to death therefore causing millions to convert to Catholicism. Under the powerful Roman Empire, Catholicism grows quickly. But the bishops worry that the Roman gods are too popular. Romans still pray to the winged Goddess Fortuna, the bringer of luck. But there is a more feared deity to the Christian church, Pan. They see him as a serious threat that must be discredited. He is a God of Music, Love making and happiness. Pan as a pagan God has goat like features. His body is hairy; He has horns and hoofed feet. The Romans adopt Pans’ features to Satan. So, Satan becomes an ugly hoofed creature with horns and a tail. This is easy because Pan is also referred as Sata. In this Era, the church is desperate to gain more followers. So, it incorporates Pagan Ceremonies with Christian ceremonies. 25th Dec, a pagan holiday of the birth of the sun and the coming of Santa Claus, is marked as the day of the birth of Christ. The same happens to Easter holiday. This is to persuade more pagans to become Christians. A Roman Pope by the name Mercury rises into Papacy. The church is desperate again. There is no way they’ll let a pope hold a name of a Roman Pagan God; Mercury. The pope is then urged to choose another name. In the year 325 Constantine holds a council called the Cancel of Nicea. It is preceded by Alexander of Alexandria. The main aim of the council is to form one Catholic faith. The main topics of discussion are; Arianism, the nature of Christ, celebration of Passover; Easter, ordination of eunuchs, prohibition of kneeling on Sundays and from Easter to Pentecost, validity of baptism by heretics, lapsed Christians, sundry other matters. Its main accomplishmentsare settlement of the Christological issue of the nature of the Son of God and his relationship to God the Father, the construction of the first part of the Creed of Nicaea, establishing uniform observance of the date of Easter, and promulgation of early canon law. The First Council of Nicaea is the first ecumenical council of the Church. Most significantly, it results in the first, uniform Christian doctrine, called the Creed of Nicaea. With the creation of the creed, a precedent is established for subsequent local and regional councils of Bishops to create statements of belief and canons of doctrinal orthodoxy the intent being to define unity of beliefs for the whole of Christendom. The council settles, to some degree, the debate within the Early Christian communities¬ regarding the divinity of Christ. This idea of the divinity of Christ, along with the idea of Christ as a messenger from God (The Father), has long existed in various parts of the Roman Empire. The divinity of Christ has also been widely endorsed by the Christian community in the otherwise pagan city of Rome. The council affirms and defined what it believed to be the teachings of the Apostles regarding who Christ is: that Christ is the one true God in deity with the Father. Derived from Greek oikoumenikos( Greek:οἰκουμένη), "ecumenical" means "worldwide" but generally is assumed to be limited to the Roman Empire. One purpose of the council is to resolve disagreements arising from within the Church of Alexandria over the nature of the Son in his relationship to the Father: in particular, whether the Son had been 'begotten' by the Father from his own being, or rather, created out of nothing, a characteristic shared with other creatures. St. Alexander of Alexandria and Athanasius takes the first position; the popular presbyter Arius, from whom the term Arianism comes, takes the second. The council decides against the Arians overwhelmingly (of the estimated 250–318 attendees, all but two agree to sign the creed and these two, along with Arius, are banished to Illyria). Another result of the council is an agreement on when to celebrate Easter, the most important feast of the ecclesiastical calendar, decreed in an epistle to the Church of Alexandrian which is simply stated: We also send you the good news of the settlement concerning the holy pasch, namely that in answer to your prayers this question also has been resolved. All the brethren in the East who have hitherto followed the Jewish practice will henceforth observe the custom of the Romans and of yourselves and of all of us who from ancient times have kept Easter together with you. These and the later councils are what leads to the translation of the bible, removal of Gnostic gospels from the bible and even burning of biblical translations which are then declared as heresy to change God’s word into another language. Thousands of biblical translations are burned by the other councils that follow. In 1215, the Fourth Council of the Lateran makes it canon law that every catholic goes to confession in his parish at least once a year. The specification to his own parish is later dropped. This is before Basil the great (330-379 AD) and St Augustine the Hippo (354-430), have declared it necessary to confess your sins to the priest. This arises from fear that there might be spies inside the walls of Vatican. And since the priest is a Vicar of Christ and has the ability to forgive sins, why not use the priest whom power have been invested in by Christ to forgive sin after they confess them? Vatican starts to mock God with names such as Father while we know that there is only one father who is God. A blasphemous phrase is introduced; “Forgive me father for I have sinned.” Then the priest punishes you for your sins with a prayer. These acts are justified with two things: First, a priest has the ability to forgive sins after you confess them to him since he is a representative of the son of God, who holds the power of God and is like God. So, the priest, Jesus and God are more or less equal and hold the same power. Second, there are many letters in the New Testament teaching that we should confess our sins to one another. These letters have been completely misinterpreted.Christ, as the supposedly figure a priest should imitate never asked what sins one had committed before He forgave them and no authority. Truth be told, not all scriptural translations are right. It all depends on the translator's intentions. The Pharisees too quoted the scripture to try and trap Jesus. Trapping Jesus was their intention. So, they tried to wrongly quote the scripture to meet their goal. Catholic Encyclopedia: The confession is not made in the penitent’s heart nor to a layman as a friend and an advocate , nor to a representative of Human authority, but to a duly ordained priest with requisite jurisdiction and with the ‘Power of the keys’, i.e., the power to forgive sins which Christ granted to his church. On the contrary, in the early church, publicly known sins were often confessed publicly and private confession was still used for private sins. Also, penance was done before absolution rather than after. These wrong misinterpretations of the bible are later used to enslave people with satanic philosophies. Authority from the Catholics higher ups should not be questioned since it came directly from god’s superior servant. So, if a priest tells you to kill or commit suicide, you should never question that command since it is from a representative of God and so it is from God. By medieval ages, the church has convinced their followers that Satan is real. This gives rise to Gnosticism. The Gnostic Christian has another concept. They have a philosophy of a Good God who created everything spiritual and an evil god who created everything physical. One group which is taking enthusiasm to the Gnostic ideas is the Cathers of Southern France. To the Cather’s all material possessions belong to the Devil. This concept can also be seen in Christianity where Satan offers to give Jesus all the earthly material wealth including Kingdoms and riches. Jesus does not dispute Satan by Saying that they belong to His father but only turns down Satan’s offer. For a church now wealthy and powerful, this is seen as an uncomfortable and a dangerous threat. The common people admire the Cathers who walk around feeding the poor, healing the sick and preaching good news. So, the church declares that the Cather’s are in league with Satan. Pope innocent the III announces a crusade against the Cathers in 1209. He tries to convert them back to Catholicism but it doesn’t work. The only thing left is to kill them. This crusade turns into a 45 year old war. At least 100, 000 people die for saying that Satan is more powerful than the church says he is. WHO IS THE HERETIC HERE? Good attempt. We all know that the ideas of the ruling class is the ruling ideas of every historical epoch.
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