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hmmm What a wast of money? i dnt knw wat is relly happening wy is govt treting us like this. gvt ar mad Reply
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Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. You will agree that this pilgrimage should not be sponsored by the national cake. It should be a community thing where the rich people in the community should donate a substantial sum of money for those less able to make the pilgrimage to be able to do so at least once in their life time.It used to be a journey made by the rich not sure why the government would get involved to sponsor others and yet, the poor without connection, has not been able to make that pilgrimage to date so it is well that this funding be abolished because those meant to benefit never did benefit, but the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the funds were mismanaged. The government has made the right decision this time and we should commend them. God bless Nigeria.
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y are plenty pple throwing bullets on this site?na waa o.u guys need further studies.heap watever insult on me, i accept but pls improve in ur grammer and prove read bf u send.thanks Reply
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Quote from: omatu on 12-03-2010 02:51 PM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. You will agree that this pilgrimage should not be sponsored by the national cake. It should be a community thing where the rich people in the community should donate a substantial sum of money for those less able to make the pilgrimage to be able to do so at least once in their life time.It used to be a journey made by the rich not sure why the government would get involved to sponsor others and yet, the poor without connection, has not been able to make that pilgrimage to date so it is well that this funding be abolished because those meant to benefit never did benefit, but the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the funds were mismanaged. The government has made the right decision this time and we should commend them. God bless Nigeria. A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything.
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i beg my fellow naija people to take it easy this one no reach to shoot bomb for, becouse i know say small things like this fit make some people carch fire, who want go make him use him money take go, goverment know stope am becouse them one find trouble them do am for the battermen of naija at list save some money for better things. Reply
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Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 04:07 PM Quote from: omatu on 12-03-2010 02:51 PM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. You will agree that this pilgrimage should not be sponsored by the national cake. It should be a community thing where the rich people in the community should donate a substantial sum of money for those less able to make the pilgrimage to be able to do so at least once in their life time.It used to be a journey made by the rich not sure why the government would get involved to sponsor others and yet, the poor without connection, has not been able to make that pilgrimage to date so it is well that this funding be abolished because those meant to benefit never did benefit, but the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the funds were mismanaged. The government has made the right decision this time and we should commend them. God bless Nigeria. The state funds also came from the Federal government. Funds received from the federal government should not be allocated from religious pilgrimages for any religion. This type of funding should only be covered via the religious organizations and not the funds coming from the federal government to the states. All government should actually keep out of funding religious pilgrimages.
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Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 04:07 PM Quote from: omatu on 12-03-2010 02:51 PM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. You will agree that this pilgrimage should not be sponsored by the national cake. It should be a community thing where the rich people in the community should donate a substantial sum of money for those less able to make the pilgrimage to be able to do so at least once in their life time.It used to be a journey made by the rich not sure why the government would get involved to sponsor others and yet, the poor without connection, has not been able to make that pilgrimage to date so it is well that this funding be abolished because those meant to benefit never did benefit, but the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the funds were mismanaged. The government has made the right decision this time and we should commend them. God bless Nigeria. Bingo. We agree I say no to any type of subsidy.
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i will disagree with you totally . that hajj is not and never cab be a journey under taking by rich peoples , hajj is never like going to jerusalem , is not like going to the amusements park , and is not like a jambores ,its ordaine by ALLAH himself , commanding the faithful to embark on the journey of faith , GOD said in the holy book al-quraan chapter 22 verse 27 which happen to the chapter of hajj itself ----- and proclaim to mankind the hajj ( pilgrimage) they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, they will come from every deep and distance (wide) mountain highway to perform hajj , that they may witnessthings that are of benefit to them ,i e reward of hajj in the hereafter , and also some worldly gain from trade , and mention the name of ALLAH on the apointed days i,e 10,11,12,and 13 days of duhl-hijjah Replyits a welcome ideal if the fed govt stop the sponsoring , i for one did not see any thing bad in that and its a welcome idea and hajj had been a continues yearly events ever before nigeria came to be as a country , much more older than the age of our country as a nation to talk less of any govt in power , and no one i repeat no any govt be what so ever it may can stop its continuety
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Quote from: kenyawest on 12-03-2010 08:34 PM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 04:07 PM Quote from: omatu on 12-03-2010 02:51 PM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. You will agree that this pilgrimage should not be sponsored by the national cake. It should be a community thing where the rich people in the community should donate a substantial sum of money for those less able to make the pilgrimage to be able to do so at least once in their life time.It used to be a journey made by the rich not sure why the government would get involved to sponsor others and yet, the poor without connection, has not been able to make that pilgrimage to date so it is well that this funding be abolished because those meant to benefit never did benefit, but the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the funds were mismanaged. The government has made the right decision this time and we should commend them. God bless Nigeria. The state funds also came from the Federal government. Funds received from the federal government should not be allocated from religious pilgrimages for any religion. This type of funding should only be covered via the religious organizations and not the funds coming from the federal government to the states. All government should actually keep out of funding religious pilgrimages.  (or sorry south south oil money given to us for the sake of federalism). A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything.
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Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. Brother this is non partisan . no bleak stomach towards our muslim populace at all just the notion that government subsides pilgrimage to any where be is Mecca or Jerusalem - the holy lands . its not compulsory . Banning those pilgrimages would have been a very bad thing for both religions but supporting them with the tax payers money is senseless - No advantage at all . One would have thought it would make the country better one way or another but look at the ongoing and u will fill find its a sheer waste of Govt funds . If anyone is rich enough to go on those trips or if the super affluent people in your religion wish to shower their affluence on the less privileged . by all means . NOTHING prevents them.I dont think the scriptures made it compulsory to travel .on another man's sweat . I perfomed my own pilgrimage too unsponsored and i am still paying hard for it till today but it was a cause well worth the sweat if you are motivated enough to deepen your faith and accomplish your life goals then do it on your own merit. . I pray that Allah gives you the wisdom to take this in the right context . " If its not for love - its for nothing " [/size]
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Quote from: ajanni on 12-03-2010 11:23 PM i will disagree with you totally . that hajj is not and never cab be a journey under taking by rich peoples , hajj is never like going to jerusalem , is not like going to the amusements park , and is not like a jambores ,its ordaine by ALLAH himself , commanding the faithful to embark on the journey of faith , GOD said in the holy book al-quraan chapter 22 verse 27 which happen to the chapter of hajj itself ----- and proclaim to mankind the hajj ( pilgrimage) they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, they will come from every deep and distance (wide) mountain highway to perform hajj , that they may witnessthings that are of benefit to them ,i e reward of hajj in the hereafter , and also some worldly gain from trade , and mention the name of ALLAH on the apointed days i,e 10,11,12,and 13 days of duhl-hijjah its a welcome ideal if the fed govt stop the sponsoring , i for one did not see any thing bad in that and its a welcome idea and hajj had been a continues yearly events ever before nigeria came to be as a country , much more older than the age of our country as a nation to talk less of any govt in power , and no one i repeat no any govt be what so ever it may can stop its continuety No one has any plans to stop the continuity of these visits to the holy land but i dont think a preferential treatment for one religion over another is justified . Its a sap on hard earned foreign currency . It would have been a heinous crime if the govt bans this holy pilgrimages to anywhere Mecca or Jerusalem but right now I dont think any govt has taken that stance yet . in Nigeria so no justification for the fear that someone can stop the continuity of Hajj. Let people go there who are capable of making this all important call especially for the Muslim brothers as purported but let it not be on my own sweat and the sweat of others not interested in religion ITS NOT FAIR . " If its not for love - its for nothing " [/size]
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WHY CANT NIGERIA BE A PLACE TO VISIT BY OTHER PILGRIMS . ITS HAPPENING ALREADY AND FOREIGN EXCHANGE EARNER FOR THE COUNTRY . IF THE GOVT CAN DIVERT THE FUNDS FOR SPONSORSHIP TO FOREIGN LANDS TO DEVELOPING OUR OWN LOCAL PILGRIM CENTRES . THAT WILL BE WELL WORTH IT . Reply " If its not for love - its for nothing " [/size]
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Quote from: spekay on 13-03-2010 12:57 AM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. Brother this is non partisan . no bleak stomach towards our muslim populace at all just the notion that government subsides pilgrimage to any where be is Mecca or Jerusalem - the holy lands . its not compulsory . Banning those pilgrimages would have been a very bad thing for both religions but supporting them with the tax payers money is senseless - No advantage at all . One would have thought it would make the country better one way or another but look at the ongoing and u will fill find its a sheer waste of Govt funds . If anyone is rich enough to go on those trips or if the super affluent people in your religion wish to shower their affluence on the less privileged . by all means . NOTHING prevents them.I dont think the scriptures made it compulsory to travel .on another man's sweat . I perfomed my own pilgrimage too unsponsored and i am still paying hard for it till today but it was a cause well worth the sweat if you are motivated enough to deepen your faith and accomplish your life goals then do it on your own merit. . I pray that Allah gives you the wisdom to take this in the right context . A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything.
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Quote from: BONZ on 13-03-2010 01:27 AM Quote from: spekay on 13-03-2010 12:57 AM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. Brother this is non partisan . no bleak stomach towards our muslim populace at all just the notion that government subsides pilgrimage to any where be is Mecca or Jerusalem - the holy lands . its not compulsory . Banning those pilgrimages would have been a very bad thing for both religions but supporting them with the tax payers money is senseless - No advantage at all . One would have thought it would make the country better one way or another but look at the ongoing and u will fill find its a sheer waste of Govt funds . If anyone is rich enough to go on those trips or if the super affluent people in your religion wish to shower their affluence on the less privileged . by all means . NOTHING prevents them.I dont think the scriptures made it compulsory to travel .on another man's sweat . I perfomed my own pilgrimage too unsponsored and i am still paying hard for it till today but it was a cause well worth the sweat if you are motivated enough to deepen your faith and accomplish your life goals then do it on your own merit. . I pray that Allah gives you the wisdom to take this in the right context . Hello Bro i do agree with you on that one . THE SAME ALLAH SWEET who made this call will provide us the means to answer Him as He never fails I also agree with you that people always go over the board with discussions like this at times its not meant to be a forum to insult each other or peoples treasured faith . I only hope we will outgrow such irreverent behaviour soon as its the cause of most of problems yet in co-habiting peacefully with each other . " If its not for love - its for nothing " [/size]
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Quote from: ajanni on 12-03-2010 11:23 PM i will disagree with you totally . that hajj is not and never cab be a journey under taking by rich peoples , hajj is never like going to jerusalem , is not like going to the amusements park , and is not like a jambores ,its ordaine by ALLAH himself , commanding the faithful to embark on the journey of faith , GOD said in the holy book al-quraan chapter 22 verse 27 which happen to the chapter of hajj itself ----- and proclaim to mankind the hajj ( pilgrimage) they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, they will come from every deep and distance (wide) mountain highway to perform hajj , that they may witnessthings that are of benefit to them ,i e reward of hajj in the hereafter , and also some worldly gain from trade , and mention the name of ALLAH on the apointed days i,e 10,11,12,and 13 days of duhl-hijjah If the moslems want all moslems to do the hajj, then they should look for alternative funding methods, but definitely not states funds. We need to learn to separate religion from the government because there too many ethnic groups in Nigeria and too many religions. You cannot fund one group and not fund the other so the decision not to fund any is a better way to go.its a welcome ideal if the fed govt stop the sponsoring , i for one did not see any thing bad in that and its a welcome idea and hajj had been a continues yearly events ever before nigeria came to be as a country , much more older than the age of our country as a nation to talk less of any govt in power , and no one i repeat no any govt be what so ever it may can stop its continuety
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Quote from: spekay on 13-03-2010 12:57 AM Quote from: BONZ on 12-03-2010 10:33 AM SO WHAT!!! Govt no govt, the Hajj will be attended as usual if not evn on a bigger scale. It is a calling from ALLAH (SWT) so muslims will sacrifice a great deal for such an important cause. I dont undrstnd why Xtians look for the slightest possible oppurtunity to throw cheap shots @ Islam. Its the fastest growing religion for a reason so say whateva but deal with it u must. Brother this is non partisan . no bleak stomach towards our muslim populace at all just the notion that government subsides pilgrimage to any where be is Mecca or Jerusalem - the holy lands . its not compulsory . Banning those pilgrimages would have been a very bad thing for both religions but supporting them with the tax payers money is senseless - No advantage at all . One would have thought it would make the country better one way or another but look at the ongoing and u will fill find its a sheer waste of Govt funds . If anyone is rich enough to go on those trips or if the super affluent people in your religion wish to shower their affluence on the less privileged . by all means . NOTHING prevents them.I dont think the scriptures made it compulsory to travel .on another man's sweat . I perfomed my own pilgrimage too unsponsored and i am still paying hard for it till today but it was a cause well worth the sweat if you are motivated enough to deepen your faith and accomplish your life goals then do it on your own merit. . I pray that Allah gives you the wisdom to take this in the right context . Hallelujah
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Quote from: spekay on 13-03-2010 01:11 AM WHY CANT NIGERIA BE A PLACE TO VISIT BY OTHER PILGRIMS . ITS HAPPENING ALREADY AND FOREIGN EXCHANGE EARNER FOR THE COUNTRY . IF THE GOVT CAN DIVERT THE FUNDS FOR SPONSORSHIP TO FOREIGN LANDS TO DEVELOPING OUR OWN LOCAL PILGRIM CENTRES . THAT WILL BE WELL WORTH IT . Built by whom?
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