I can prove christianity is fake (Page 22)

Genesis 1 vs 1-2 " In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth and the earth was without form and void" ....first words in the Christian book...the Bible. What does without form mean? Isn't it without shape?...something with no form has no shape. What has no shape?....has to be a solid or gas. Gas has no shape....or form. Doesn't this mean that the earth was first in a gaseous state?...according to the Christian Book? This is basically the foundation of Christianity and if this is fake then it is fair to conclude all else is fake. What if it is not fake? You have no proof to show it is fake. I can lead you to scientific proof to validate these first words in the Bible. Go research the plates of the earth...the ones that cause the earthquakes etc....the foundation of the earth....find out the name of the gas that is trapped within the plates...(I'll name it at a later date). The relevant scientists all acknowledge the presence of this gas and only a few would say what they all know....the gas had to be there before the earth was formed and the earth had to be formed very quickly. If there is scientific evidence to validate the first words of the Bible what scientific evidence you have to prove its fake? We are still waiting.
 

Posted: at 21-03-2011 03:40 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

D fear always entertianed by ohther people when Christianity enters a place, the miracles witnessed in Christianity, the violence against christians are proofs that christianity is not fake but the only true religion

Posted: at 23-03-2011 04:17 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

...you again...you never cease to amaze me...
lets say this is a trick question...
...five years ago...I taught my primary three pupils the water circle...that water exist in three states, solid, liquid and gas...
although I did not teach them about the atmosphere, gravity and the functions of the moon in regards to oceans...and waves

...common...you know the gist...

The early man was giving info according to their understanding...This is a different dispensation...
The modern man...em...which yours truly is fortunate to be part of...knows that God in his infinite power and strength created and put in place natural laws (primary and secondary)
...everything there is...are kept in their state based on their or a law...

Posted: at 24-03-2011 05:41 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@chik001
I see you have problem accepting factual statements. Are you saying the bible did not mean water but gas? or there is an explanation for the waters in the beginning?

Would like your educative answer and remember am not a primary school kid. Neither do I belief in the caveman story you are telling. Lets go to your source of information and fill in the GAP where we need to understand that if something or someone comes to an area and floats about the place, he or it must have come from somewhere that is not local to the vicinity where he is reported to have been. If you can understand my statement it will be a good point to start with explaining how the waters came about.

Posted: at 5-04-2011 04:20 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Many followers of Jesus died for standing on the truth that they held.  If it were not true, by now we would know so.  Many have tried to disprove Christianity but have failed in all attempts.  As it is to this age and will remain.  No man can ever account or explain away the transformed lives of those who accept and follow Jesus Christ.

There is a quote from history, by Emporor Nero.  He persecuted many Christians but many, even Romans, still gave their lives to God through Jesus Christ.  As Christians entered the arena to die, Nero said, "They're singing!"  For a lie, who would go to their deaths singing?  Who wouldn't confess?  But never, to this day is there an account of ever such taking place.  Why?

The proof you think you have is an illusion.  Many have knowledge but still do not know and many have eyes but still can not see.

It is my prayer that if you have not, that you read the Bible (KJV before the copyrighting rubbish began), starting with the new testment book of St. John.  Any researcher of facts must also know what the researched believes.  God's word is life!  It would be better to discuss then.

Posted: at 16-04-2011 05:26 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

@mchinwendu

Many Africans died in the hands of the christian crusader! does that make what they died for the only truth? Do you actually know how many Africans died in the hands of the Jesus people or how many died on the John Hawkings ship called "JESUS CHRIST"? 300 million african lives where lost so GOD can come to Africa.............Has there been a proof to date that the GOD or Jesus christ exists? NO!! Can you get Justice for having being enslaved and lied to? NO!!! Can an Isreali Jew get justice if people say the holocaust never happened? YES!!

How more blind in the heart can you all be? 

Posted: at 22-04-2011 08:39 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@chik001

You are such a joker!!!

You are not one for an educated discussion as you normally go off tangent. If you are willling to stay put, we can touch on your directions as in

1. Science
2. Personal experience
3. Philosophy(ontological...The First Cause....The design...or Moral...
4. Historical

Firstly I will like to point out to you that in general context "GOD has always existed" So hopefully you wont mind if I say that Africans where practising the things contained in both the bible and quran during their civilization...............I can go on to prove this if you want, but ....what am trying to point out here is that Africans never said they where practising a religion, it was a combination of philosophy and Metaphysics or Alchemy. Philosophy in the sense that they use stories, pictograms, and allegories to dipict activities, events, and entities that are contained in this universe. The africans have good knowledge of everything in the universe, and all those that your eyes can see when you look up at night.

I mentioned this so we dont get confused later on when discussing your point 3.

So, lets break this down in anticipation of your input..............

1) Science

The important difference between science and religion is that religion comes with ABSOLUTE statements, that neither can be proved or disproved, and science evolves from relative truths and statements, that can be testified and proven false (which means: science has to develop, in order to replace (partly) untrue theories, and replace them with better ones).
Science does not claim it has absolute knowledge on anything. Religion claims it has. It will therefore be very difficult to prove a religious concept scientifically unless if it is true. GOD is a religious concept.

BUT science still has the capacity to prove if the concept of GOD is true!!!
To do this, we will need the help of the original African scientific concept of merging metaphysical science with philosophical science...............Why Is it necessary to do this?

Same reason I setup this topic "if something is neither provable nor disprovable, then it is useless."
It can only have value to people who prefer to be ignorant, and don't want to get into complicated knowledge, and prefer to believe in something that is disprovable.

Posted: at 23-04-2011 10:45 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@chik001

This is what I meant when I say you go off tangent......like you are not ready to follow up on you statement to find truth using those four headings.

We both do not have same experience, and mine is very different from yours. The problem here is, your learning is of only a physical nature, you made no mention of what you know through your spirituality. OR is your spirituality the fact that you belief in GOD? Does that make you spiritual? being a christian?

I have to work hard for my knowledge. It takes a lot of reading, meditating, inquiring, exploring, experience, etc not just physical, but your ability to project out of yourself and project your mind into situations that you will find yourself in future. I know I have to work so hard to aquire a little knowledge that guides me in my quest. For you, it is easy, GOD knows all, with him comes wisdom and all knowledge. You belief in him and he has his spirit in you. Meaning you dont have to work hard for your knowledge Like I have to...........................So, I should accept that you know more than I do...........Like the scholar i am, please can you explain what you mean by

"...the spiritual controls the physical…whether you like it or not…true religion operates in the spiritual and science operates in the physical…"

This sounds like a FACT you KNOW..............just want to learn!!!

Posted: at 23-04-2011 02:56 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@Frayobkk

I dont believe in GOD. This word or Creator referred to as GOD is in the christian bible. I dont believe the christian bible is true, real, or is seen in its true light.

I can show you why I dont believe in these. Also I can certainly tell you that no one, that I have met in my lifetime has any proof of the existence. Furthermore, I can safely tell/and show you that the bible was copied from ancient african texts and their waay no reference to GOD in the original texts.

Posted: at 23-04-2011 04:27 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

If I say i dont know, will you also answer truthfully?

So I ask you too...............How was the world made?

Posted: at 23-04-2011 04:40 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac