Different Versions of the Koran

Date: 29-12-2010 5:55 pm (10 years ago) | Author: Onyike Onyekaraka
- at 29-12-2010 05:55 PM (10 years ago)
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Many Muslims have told me that all Qur'ans in the world are exactly the same... and that it is perfectly preserved and free from any variation.
This idea is often said as a way of showing that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Muslims says this because this is what their leaders teach them about the Qur'an and the Bible.

READ MORE ON THESE DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

Posted: at 29-12-2010 05:55 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
- ganster-kid at 30-12-2010 12:22 PM (10 years ago)
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That religion is more of cult than Religion. Why is it that ppl are prevented from knowing what they do until you get in there. THE ONLY PPL I KNOW THAT PRACTICE SUCH ARE CULTIST AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.
Posted: at 30-12-2010 12:22 PM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- adams933 at 5-01-2011 04:46 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: ganster-kid on 30-12-2010 12:22 PM
That religion is more of cult than Religion. Why is it that ppl are prevented from knowing what they do until you get in there. THE ONLY PPL I KNOW THAT PRACTICE SUCH ARE CULTIST AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.

Cult or no cult you were not invited my friend just shut that toliet you call mouth.
Posted: at 5-01-2011 04:46 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ibraheemjimoh at 7-01-2011 06:35 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: adams933 on  5-01-2011 04:46 PM
Quote from: ganster-kid on 30-12-2010 12:22 PM
That religion is more of cult than Religion. Why is it that ppl are prevented from knowing what they do until you get in there. THE ONLY PPL I KNOW THAT PRACTICE SUCH ARE CULTIST AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.

Cult or no cult you were not invited my friend just shut that toliet you call mouth.

It is a pity that such a lackadaisical statement can come out from your misused public toilet call mouth.
Posted: at 7-01-2011 06:35 AM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ganster-kid at 7-01-2011 02:58 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: ibraheemjimoh on  7-01-2011 06:35 AM
Quote from: adams933 on  5-01-2011 04:46 PM
Quote from: ganster-kid on 30-12-2010 12:22 PM
That religion is more of cult than Religion. Why is it that ppl are prevented from knowing what they do until you get in there. THE ONLY PPL I KNOW THAT PRACTICE SUCH ARE CULTIST AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.

Cult or no cult you were not invited my friend just shut that toliet you call mouth.

It is a pity that such a lackadaisical statement can come out from your misused public toilet call mouth.


 ahahahah but you are fckin smelly shit that came through your smelly mothers anus , with your cursed ancestors, you are so disabled you eat true the anus, this is just the begining, doomed ppl
Posted: at 7-01-2011 02:58 PM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ganster-kid at 7-01-2011 03:01 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: adams933 on  5-01-2011 04:46 PM
Quote from: ganster-kid on 30-12-2010 12:22 PM
That religion is more of cult than Religion. Why is it that ppl are prevented from knowing what they do until you get in there. THE ONLY PPL I KNOW THAT PRACTICE SUCH ARE CULTIST AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.

Cult or no cult you were not invited my friend just shut that toliet you call mouth.


now tell me, who invited terrorists to this forum? who invited wondering cursed arabs to this forum? leave this country and go back to your God forsaken country, stop causing problems here
Posted: at 7-01-2011 03:01 PM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- mubaji at 7-01-2011 05:10 PM (10 years ago)
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Shocked  Shocked  Shocked
i could remember having the fourth comment on this topic.
i said it earlier that the website referred to is a Jewish-oriented site aimed at publicising fallacies about Islam and Muslims.
i remember ajanni even said the site was not laoding; i think he resides in one of the countries which blocked that website.

now, the admin deleted my comment for telling truth because they want to refer readers to that site.
after a while a fool like the administrators of this site will tell me they preach peace and want all religion-adherents to respect one-another's religion.
you will all doom in HELL.
Posted: at 7-01-2011 05:10 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- cadanre at 7-01-2011 05:16 PM (10 years ago)
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FORGET THEM. THEY ARE ONLY WASTING THEIR TIME.....

Posted: at 7-01-2011 05:16 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- cadanre at 7-01-2011 05:28 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik000001

I really do not agree that versions of Qur'an exists and I brought forward many reasons which need not to be repeated whether you accept them or otherwise. I am sure no Muslim will accept what you brought as versions of Qur'an but in contrast all Christians believed that there are tens of versions of bibles. Thus:

Early English Translations & Versions

The “Venerable Bede” is reported to have made the first translation of the Bible into a language used in England during the VIII century. He is credited with at least translating portions of the gospel of John and his translation was attested to by others. In the following two centuries there appeared a few more incomplete translations. One of them is the so-called “Alfred version” (reputedly by King Alfred) and was of some of the Psalms.


Modern Translations

The “King James Version” (KJV) was authorized by King James I of England in 1604 as a new translation of the Bible. It was intended to be a comprehensive revision of the Bishops Bible (published in 1568) and was to incorporate comparisons of the Greek text of Erasmus and the Hebrew Masoretic texts and earlier English translations. A group of 47 translators began in 1607 with this monumental task, and they completed it in 1611. It is also referred to as “The Authorized Version” or AV, and it became the standard translation among English speaking Protestants. It was the most popular Bible until 1987, and is still widely used and preferred by many.


Darby Translation

This Bible was translated by John Nelson Darby in 1890. Darby was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher and was associated with the early years of the Plymouth Brethren.


American Standard Version

This Bible was first published in 1901 and is regarded as the most literal English translation of the Bible. It is a very popular Bible for Bible studies. The “American Standard” translators incorporated older “eastern manuscripts” which have become the basis for most modern English translations, whereas the King James Version was entirely from “western manuscripts.”


Revised Standard Version(RSV)

The Revised Standard version is a revision of the “Authorized Version,” or the “King James Version” of 1611 and of the “American Standard Version” of 1901. In an attempt to provide great accuracy, the best ancient texts available at the time were used.


New International Version(NIV)

In 1965 work on the “New International Version” of the Bible was begun and it was translated by over 100 scholars using currently available Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts. The goal for this version was to produce an accurate translation that would have clarity and literary quality. It was completed in 1978.


New American Standard Bible(NASB)

While trying to preserve the literal accuracy of the 1901 ASV while attempting to update the grammar and terminology, the “New American Standard Version” came into existence. It is a revision of the old ASV.


The New King James Version

In 1979 this newer translation of the original “King James Version” was published. Although this version did not really win the approval of the general public, it was designed to make a modern translation that reminds people of the KJV and answers the criticism of the post-1881 translations.


Now that we have covered that very basics of information regarding Bible versions, here are a few more modern Bibles from which you can choose! Check at your local Christian bookstore, or order from the Internet. Find them by doing a word search. There is something for everyone!


The Full Life Study Bible(NIV and KJV)

“...Developed especially for Spirit-filled Christians.”


The Leadership Bible(NIV)

“offers both a defining purpose beyond the temporal "bottom line" thinking of society and a relevant model for contemporary leadership.”


The NIV Women's Devotional Bible 2

“A shower of brand new devotions in another edition of the best-selling Bible for women.”


Teen Study Bible — Revised Edition (NIV)

“Want to get teenagers into the Bible? Give them a Bible that speaks to their world.”


The Collegiate Devotional Bible (NIV)

“College-age students will find a compass for making life choices in this NIV devotional Bible”


The Student Serendipity Bible (NIV)

“Bible Helps Youth Leaders Prepare Effectively”


The Christian Growth Study Bible

“Discover Your Personal Path Toward Knowing God and Making Him Known"


The African-American Devotional Bible

“300 Daily Devotions from Prominent African-American Christians”


and more still........!

The Living Insights Bible

The Journey - NIV

The Quest Study Bible

The Mommy & Me Story Bible

The New International Reader's Version (NIrV)

The NIrV Kid's Study Bible

The NIV Senior's Devotional Bible The Teen Study Bible

The Men's Devotional Bible

The Women's Devotional Bible 1

The Student Bible

The NIV Life Application Bible

The New Adventure Bible

I WONDER IF YOU WILL DENY THAT THESE VERSIONS OF BIBLE EXISTS

Posted: at 7-01-2011 05:28 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- cadanre at 7-01-2011 05:31 PM (10 years ago)
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And the above versions are all ONE BIBLE. Like I told you before, No Muslim will accept what you and your author concoct as being versions of the Qur'an.

Posted: at 7-01-2011 05:31 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- chik001 at 7-01-2011 05:35 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: mubaji on  7-01-2011 05:10 PM
Shocked  Shocked  Shocked
i could remember having the fourth comment on this topic.
i said it earlier that the website referred to is a Jewish-oriented site aimed at publicising fallacies about Islam and Muslims.
i remember ajanni even said the site was not laoding; i think he resides in one of the countries which blocked that website.

now, the admin deleted my comment for telling truth because they want to refer readers to that site.
after a while a fool like the administrators of this site will tell me they preach peace and want all religion-adherents to respect one-another's religion.
you will all doom in HELL.


Stop behaving like a grumpy old man...
I remember telling you boys that anyone can criticize anything...
You guys think you are above criticism...well, unfortunately...I got more where those came from...
Yous are in an information controlled cult you call religion...you think the world revolves around you and nothing or nobody else matters...
Thank God for the Internet...that gave us the freedom to air our views...If you want people to respect your religion...The respect other's religion too...!!!
Posted: at 7-01-2011 05:35 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 7-01-2011 05:58 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  7-01-2011 05:35 PM
Quote from: mubaji on  7-01-2011 05:10 PM
Shocked  Shocked  Shocked
i could remember having the fourth comment on this topic.
i said it earlier that the website referred to is a Jewish-oriented site aimed at publicising fallacies about Islam and Muslims.
i remember ajanni even said the site was not laoding; i think he resides in one of the countries which blocked that website.

now, the admin deleted my comment for telling truth because they want to refer readers to that site.
after a while a fool like the administrators of this site will tell me they preach peace and want all religion-adherents to respect one-another's religion.
you will all doom in HELL.


Stop behaving like a grumpy old man...
I remember telling you boys that anyone can criticize anything...
You guys think you are above criticism...well, unfortunately...I got more where those came from...
Yous are in an information controlled cult you call religion...you think the world revolves around you and nothing or nobody else matters...
Thank God for the Internet...that gave us the freedom to air our views...If you want people to respect your religion...The respect other's religion too...!!!
you this lad will never listen, i've told you number of times that 'you are only decieved by the control (power) in your hands. unfortunately, you shan't gain anything from it, people will continue to live all religions for Islam because of the contradicting nature of those so called religion, including christianity.
i hope you'll open-up to yourself oneday hence you'll declare to us here this truth that "Islam is the fastest growing religion worldwide".
you know why?
the internet is at work; it was aimed at spreading lies about Islam but it turned roun to be a tool for Islam as Muslims aren't sleeping as well.
we are in free-world, so evrybody can open his/her mouth and criticise; but not all critics are truthful. some criticise for the sake of people , while some do so for the chauvinistic attitude they have  for their lusts, while some do that  for hatred.
Posted: at 7-01-2011 05:58 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 7-01-2011 06:01 PM (10 years ago)
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@CANDANRE
A self righteous people don't agree other wise...
...you guys are just decieving yourselves with translation and version...
...suddenly a website don't load, Ajanni lives in an area where it was banned...and you...ofcourse...self righteous CANDANRE...now started listing different Bible versions...even commentaries...just for the purpose of maintaining your self righteous and infallible profile...
Anyway...stay tuned and I will tell you once more about the Version / Translations of the Koran...and how languages affect translations...as if you don't know...

Posted: at 7-01-2011 06:01 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 7-01-2011 06:08 PM (10 years ago)
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as cadanre earlier said, no Muslim ever hear of what is called versions of Holy Qur'an; what we have is translation -a reliable one of course-. unlike Bilbe every sect has it's Bible, same sects in different suburbs even differ at times; one will be using the old version while the other is using updated version.
oh no! I can't help but laugh
 Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
i'm not mocking you dearie, i just wonder how intellectually inept the christian folks are.
Posted: at 7-01-2011 06:08 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- cadanre at 7-01-2011 09:07 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik000000001

Let me tell you this once again, NO Muslim will ever tell you that Qur'an has versions. To be true to you, all the versions you are talking about I have never seen one. All I know is Qur'an. Is it that because you edit and re-edit bible, make it in uncountable versions that we Muslims must be forced to accept that Qur'an is in versions? Take it or leave it, you christians already declare and accept that bible is in many different versions and that one version is more original and authentic than the other but all are being used as the WORD OF GOD, but we Muslims have only One STANDARD Qur'an. For that, go and say there are hundred versions of Qur'an, that does not could not and will never affect me. All you rely on for your proofs is the work of orientalist (weak) but what I used to present as proof is something which all christians and Muslims alike know. HOLD ON TO YOUR BELIEF for that does not affect me but you alone.

Posted: at 7-01-2011 09:07 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- cadanre at 7-01-2011 09:08 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik0000000000000000000000001

If you like, post thousands of such websites I have no business with it and it will not bother me. Go ahead and post the links....

Posted: at 7-01-2011 09:08 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- chik001 at 8-01-2011 07:36 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  7-01-2011 09:07 PM
@ chik000000001

Let me tell you this once again, NO Muslim will ever tell you that Qur'an has versions. To be true to you, all the versions you are talking about I have never seen one. All I know is Qur'an. Is it that because you edit and re-edit bible, make it in uncountable versions that we Muslims must be forced to accept that Qur'an is in versions? Take it or leave it, you christians already declare and accept that bible is in many different versions and that one version is more original and authentic than the other but all are being used as the WORD OF GOD, but we Muslims have only One STANDARD Qur'an. For that, go and say there are hundred versions of Qur'an, that does not could not and will never affect me. All you rely on for your proofs is the work of orientalist (weak) but what I used to present as proof is something which all christians and Muslims alike know. HOLD ON TO YOUR BELIEF for that does not affect me but you alone.

Who took your bread...
Because you and your fellow boyfriends don't know about versions of the Koran does not mean it does not exist...
You are in an information controlled cult...Because you are forced to accept anything you are being told about you religion without questioning...or death...thats why yous are so myopic in topic like this...

Lets start from the beginning...
There are initially SEVEN versions of Koran, even after Caliph Uthman made his Sahih Versions, too.

These versions are The Warsh...The Qalun...The al Dhuri...The Hafs...The Qunbul...The al Baazi...and the Hisham.

If you must know...these are the main Sunni versions...approved by Mohammad himself and doesn't include the Shi'a - al Jafari or the Sufi versions etc.

These are differences in verses between the Warsh version which is mainly use in Africa...and the Hafs versions...use in The Middle East.
Check The following verses the Quran: 7:57, 9:37, 2:259, 3:81, 6:96, 1:4, 2:140, 2:125, 3:146, 2:132, 91:15, 2:132, 3:133, 5:45, 2:139, 3:81, 2:259, 2:214, 2:9, 2:184 & 28:48.
Since our Muslim brothers think version means differences…then Different Koranic versions have differences.

It will certainly be baseless to introduce The Wahhabi Koran...cos you are not allowed to talk about it...
Posted: at 8-01-2011 07:36 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ganster-kid at 10-01-2011 02:42 PM (10 years ago)
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tell us about your koran leave bible alone ,unbelievers like you will never understand anything in the bible, its greater than any negative mind, tell us more about your hidden book koran
Posted: at 10-01-2011 02:42 PM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ajanni at 2-09-2011 08:46 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: mubaji on  7-01-2011 05:10 PM
Shocked  Shocked  Shocked
i could remember having the fourth comment on this topic.
i said it earlier that the website referred to is a Jewish-oriented site aimed at publicising fallacies about Islam and Muslims.
i remember ajanni even said the site was not laoding; i think he resides in one of the countries which blocked that website.

now, the admin deleted my comment for telling truth because they want to refer readers to that site.
after a while a fool like the administrators of this site will tell me they preach peace and want all religion-adherents to respect one-another's religion.
you will all doom in HELL.

GOD bless you , i did not even notice this until now
Posted: at 2-09-2011 08:46 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- ajanni at 2-09-2011 08:48 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  7-01-2011 05:28 PM
@ chik000001

I really do not agree that versions of Qur'an exists and I brought forward many reasons which need not to be repeated whether you accept them or otherwise. I am sure no Muslim will accept what you brought as versions of Qur'an but in contrast all Christians believed that there are tens of versions of bibles. Thus:

Early English Translations & Versions

The “Venerable Bede” is reported to have made the first translation of the Bible into a language used in England during the VIII century. He is credited with at least translating portions of the gospel of John and his translation was attested to by others. In the following two centuries there appeared a few more incomplete translations. One of them is the so-called “Alfred version” (reputedly by King Alfred) and was of some of the Psalms.


Modern Translations

The “King James Version” (KJV) was authorized by King James I of England in 1604 as a new translation of the Bible. It was intended to be a comprehensive revision of the Bishops Bible (published in 1568) and was to incorporate comparisons of the Greek text of Erasmus and the Hebrew Masoretic texts and earlier English translations. A group of 47 translators began in 1607 with this monumental task, and they completed it in 1611. It is also referred to as “The Authorized Version” or AV, and it became the standard translation among English speaking Protestants. It was the most popular Bible until 1987, and is still widely used and preferred by many.


Darby Translation

This Bible was translated by John Nelson Darby in 1890. Darby was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher and was associated with the early years of the Plymouth Brethren.


American Standard Version

This Bible was first published in 1901 and is regarded as the most literal English translation of the Bible. It is a very popular Bible for Bible studies. The “American Standard” translators incorporated older “eastern manuscripts” which have become the basis for most modern English translations, whereas the King James Version was entirely from “western manuscripts.”


Revised Standard Version(RSV)

The Revised Standard version is a revision of the “Authorized Version,” or the “King James Version” of 1611 and of the “American Standard Version” of 1901. In an attempt to provide great accuracy, the best ancient texts available at the time were used.


New International Version(NIV)

In 1965 work on the “New International Version” of the Bible was begun and it was translated by over 100 scholars using currently available Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts. The goal for this version was to produce an accurate translation that would have clarity and literary quality. It was completed in 1978.


New American Standard Bible(NASB)

While trying to preserve the literal accuracy of the 1901 ASV while attempting to update the grammar and terminology, the “New American Standard Version” came into existence. It is a revision of the old ASV.


The New King James Version

In 1979 this newer translation of the original “King James Version” was published. Although this version did not really win the approval of the general public, it was designed to make a modern translation that reminds people of the KJV and answers the criticism of the post-1881 translations.


Now that we have covered that very basics of information regarding Bible versions, here are a few more modern Bibles from which you can choose! Check at your local Christian bookstore, or order from the Internet. Find them by doing a word search. There is something for everyone!


The Full Life Study Bible(NIV and KJV)

“...Developed especially for Spirit-filled Christians.”


The Leadership Bible(NIV)

“offers both a defining purpose beyond the temporal "bottom line" thinking of society and a relevant model for contemporary leadership.”


The NIV Women's Devotional Bible 2

“A shower of brand new devotions in another edition of the best-selling Bible for women.”


Teen Study Bible — Revised Edition (NIV)

“Want to get teenagers into the Bible? Give them a Bible that speaks to their world.”


The Collegiate Devotional Bible (NIV)

“College-age students will find a compass for making life choices in this NIV devotional Bible”


The Student Serendipity Bible (NIV)

“Bible Helps Youth Leaders Prepare Effectively”


The Christian Growth Study Bible

“Discover Your Personal Path Toward Knowing God and Making Him Known"


The African-American Devotional Bible

“300 Daily Devotions from Prominent African-American Christians”


and more still........!

The Living Insights Bible

The Journey - NIV

The Quest Study Bible

The Mommy & Me Story Bible

The New International Reader's Version (NIrV)

The NIrV Kid's Study Bible

The NIV Senior's Devotional Bible The Teen Study Bible

The Men's Devotional Bible

The Women's Devotional Bible 1

The Student Bible

The NIV Life Application Bible

The New Adventure Bible

I WONDER IF YOU WILL DENY THAT THESE VERSIONS OF BIBLE EXISTS

barak ALLAHU  fik, almujahid al- kabir
Posted: at 2-09-2011 08:48 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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