SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 4)

sorry brother (xirhenrik), to correct the mishap:
-U will not change my view on the catholic church-
-For U to say the crusade-

Posted: at 1-08-2013 03:46 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Ok, i'll take ur claims one by one. you cannot say the catholic church supported slavery, that would be the logical fallacy of hasty generalisation. Some members of the catholic church supported and most others were firm abolutionists.. In dsame sense, the apostles did not betray or deny christ, but some did(judas and peter), bt still it doesnt make the apostles evil or peter evil.
For priests not marrying read matt 19:12 and 1cor 7:32-35, in shrt the whole of 1corinthians chapter 7 it talks of being married and staying unmarried and abt stayin unmarried being the better part. U shld read ur bible before comments.

Posted: at 1-08-2013 10:13 PM (10 years ago) | Newbie

Romans 8:34,“Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
One of the most common traits of the human sin nature is to gossip and condemn one another. The Bible calls it wickedsin. James 5:9 warns against judging others because God is the only Judge, and because we must give account to Him (see also Romans 14:10-12). Condemning others is a serious matter to God, for in so doing a person only heaps judgment upon them self for being a judge rather than a doer of God's Law.
Most people are self-righteous critics, scorners, hypocrites, and gossipers who will be sorry in eternity...
James 4:11-12, “Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evilof the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou artnot a doer of the law, but a judge.There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?”
Who art thou that judgest another? God asks this question. What gives anyone a right to point fingers and speak harshly and with condemnation against another human being,for we are all filthy sinners in God's sight...
Psalms 14:2, “The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Did you read what God said in Psalm 14:2...THEY ARE ALL TOGETHER BECOMEFILTHY!!!

Posted: at 1-08-2013 10:23 PM (10 years ago) | Newbie

Gbojac never put words in Gods mouth, Jesus never said it is against the law of God not to marry, instead he says in verse 11 that it is not everyone who can accept celibacy but only those to whom it has been granted. He continues that some people make themselves eunuchs(not to marry) for the sake of d kingdom of heaven. And Jesus concludes by sayin, let anyone accept this who can.

Posted: at 2-08-2013 08:54 AM (10 years ago) | Newbie

Gbojac you do not hate the catholic church, you only hate what you believe about the catholic church.
I dnt knw what your pastor told you that you are so bitter. But my priests has told me not to condemn you or your church, for we are all brothers and one in Christ Jesus.

Posted: at 2-08-2013 09:30 AM (10 years ago) | Newbie

Actually, gbojac i studied new testament greek in school jst last year, and I can tell u that I can read the new testament in its original language.. So to a good extent I can claim authority over you in that respect..age difference doesnt matter. However I cannot claim to have the holy spirit in me and neither can you, but there are exegetes led by the Holy spirit who made this interpretations. And i quote them. And I neva said the crusade was to kill a few muslims, no..i said the crusade was a war between the church and the muslims under general sala'adin to recapture jerusalem.  And no priests ever killed any slave. Quote me anywhere. They might have owned i agree and yet some were against it. But there was no killing of any slave by priests.  
And really i jst laugh at ur hypothesis that our church faces east, u see why I stated that u only hate what u believe. I can think of four catholic churches that faces four different directions. And even if anyone face east or west and pray it doesnt mean a thing my dear, God is everywhere.
Please, anybody can concot any theory about anybody. Ignatius being a free-mason is despicable. Give me a link to an authentic document..containing credible reports and eyewitness testimony not weaving.
You say the catholic church rule world affair.. I will correct you on all grounds on that assertion. The catholic church does not rule world affairs in the context u place it. Becaus if its true then there would be no gay marriage, becos the catholic church is against it, there would be no use of condom because the catholic church is against it. If the catholic church rules then this shld not be. However, even if we accept ad argumentum that the catholic church rules, ur argument still loses all logical grounds because God is also our father but there is still suffering. Does that mean that God is any less good?
Now, calling the catholic church idol worshippers still affirms my position that you just hate what you believe not the catholic church. The catholic church do not worship these images. These images are present in the church for thesame reason God commanded Moses to build a brazen serpent, for thesame reason God commanded the israelite to build an ark, when the ark came bk to israel and david danced wildly, he was not dancin to the ark but to God which repressents God. These statues in thesame vein are not God but jst a representation jst like the ark and the brazen serpent.

Posted: at 2-08-2013 08:01 PM (10 years ago) | Newbie

well, Gbojac, lets trace  something here. The first pope of the Catholic Church was Peter or Cephas which means rock, whom Jesus told' Upon this rock I will build my church whom Jesus also gave the keys. This blessing was transfered through the church from generation to generation and do you know St.Peter's Basilica is built on the tomb of PETER? the mother Catholic church is built on Peter on the rock, both physically and spiritually. And yes, I forgot one last thing. This same catholic church compiled the bible and gave it to the world. The roman catholic church is  the one, holy and apostolic church. 

Posted: at 6-08-2013 07:43 AM (10 years ago) | Newbie

Gbojac, I dnt want u to do anything. At first, u were insulting people with ur replies. I jst entered dis discussion to expose ur ignoramus. The catholic church has a direct line of successorship to the apostles and thus to Christ. any church that wants to trace its line to the apostles or to Christ must trace themselves to the catholic Church first. So, if u say the god u serve is different from the God worshipped and adored in the Catholic Church then I am sorry for u. But if its thesame. Then Good and fine.

Posted: at 6-08-2013 05:54 PM (10 years ago) | Newbie

oh! Jehovah's Witness. I'll go play nw. See u in somoda thread...anytime u say somtin derogatory about the catholic church I'll be there....my eyes are on you  ...lastly, xirhenrik and henrik is one and the same person...so long Gbojac

Posted: at 7-08-2013 12:21 AM (10 years ago) | Newbie

Gbojac, I know all these things I dnt have to re-read them, you should have figured that out by now. Now, what church do u attend?

Posted: at 7-08-2013 08:22 AM (10 years ago) | Newbie