Different Versions of The Koran

Date: 29-12-2010 6:35 pm (10 years ago) | Author: Onyike Onyekaraka
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- at 29-12-2010 06:35 PM (10 years ago)
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Many Muslims have told me that all Qur'ans in the world are exactly the same... and that it is perfectly preserved and free from any variation.
This idea is often said as a way of showing that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Muslims says this because this is what their leaders teach them about the Qur'an and the Bible.

READ MORE ON THESE DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

Posted: at 29-12-2010 06:35 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
- chik001 at 30-12-2010 07:20 PM (10 years ago)
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Islamic scholars has gone into hiding...
Posted: at 30-12-2010 07:20 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 1-01-2011 09:43 PM (10 years ago)
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Modern Muslims assert that the current Koran is identical to that recited by Muhammad. But earlier Muslims were more flexible. 'Uthman, A'isha, and Ibn Ka'b (among others) all insisted that much of the Koran had been lost.

Muhammad died in 632. The earliest written material of his life is the sira of Ibn Ishaq (750), but Ibn Ishaq's work was lost. We only have parts of it available in quotation by Ibn Hisham (834). The hadith are even later. There are six authoritative collections of hadith: Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Maja, Abu Dawud, al-Tirmidhi, and al-Nisai. All are dated between 200 and 300 years after Muhammad.
Most scholars agreed that many hadith accepted even by the most rigorous collectors were 8th and 9th century forgeries with fictitious isnads.
These hadith arose out of quarrels between the 'Umayyads and their opponents – both sides freely inventing hadith to support their respective positions.

Posted: at 1-01-2011 09:43 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- derbi at 2-01-2011 10:41 AM (10 years ago)
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 Grin Grin so them get diffrend vertion too, but why them no dey let person hear word 4 here they claim na mohamed write all the qura b4 him die Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Posted: at 2-01-2011 10:41 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 2-01-2011 11:10 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 30-12-2010 07:20 PM
Islamic scholars has gone into hiding...

And what do you mean by ISLAMIC SCHOARS HIDDING ? HIDDING WHAT FOR ?
Posted: at 2-01-2011 11:10 AM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- ajanni at 2-01-2011 11:30 AM (10 years ago)
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that link was not accesible anyway , but generally GOD send down the Holy Quraan , as mercy and guidance to mankind , and HE , GOD will protects it till the last moments HE will inherith the HEAVEN & HEARTH  HE SAYS  ان نحن نزلنا الدكر و هن له لحافظون
Posted: at 2-01-2011 11:30 AM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- mubaji at 2-01-2011 04:45 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 29-12-2010 06:35 PM
Many Muslims have told me that all Qur'ans in the world are exactly the same... and that it is perfectly preserved and free from any variation.
This idea is often said as a way of showing that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Muslims says this because this is what their leaders teach them about the Qur'an and the Bible.

READ MORE ON THESE DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

i've some students at hand now i'll be back very soon.

oh! who knows whether i won't be back.? i better say this before leaving

that website is not an islamic-oriented web, it's a web which blackmails Islam and Muslims. you can't fool us here.
find solution to your obsolete-book.
goog day.
Posted: at 2-01-2011 04:45 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 2-01-2011 10:31 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: mubaji on  2-01-2011 04:45 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 29-12-2010 06:35 PM
Many Muslims have told me that all Qur'ans in the world are exactly the same... and that it is perfectly preserved and free from any variation.
This idea is often said as a way of showing that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Muslims says this because this is what their leaders teach them about the Qur'an and the Bible.

READ MORE ON THESE DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

i've some students at hand now i'll be back very soon.

oh! who knows whether i won't be back.? i better say this before leaving

that website is not an islamic-oriented web, it's a web which blackmails Islam and Muslims. you can't fool us here.
find solution to your obsolete-book.
goog day.



...who is fooling who here...
you and your boyfriends who "blackmail" Christianity and The Bible...are you Christians?
The point here is as always...you only know what your imam and outaz and The Koran told you...fair enough...Islam has a history and I dont think you know it's history.
 Its better for you to go and study your history very well before you critisize others...
...gone are the days when the true meaning of Islam is hidden behind Arabic texts...


Posted: at 2-01-2011 10:31 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 3-01-2011 11:07 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  2-01-2011 10:31 PM
Quote from: mubaji on  2-01-2011 04:45 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 29-12-2010 06:35 PM
Many Muslims have told me that all Qur'ans in the world are exactly the same... and that it is perfectly preserved and free from any variation.
This idea is often said as a way of showing that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Muslims says this because this is what their leaders teach them about the Qur'an and the Bible.

READ MORE ON THESE DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

i've some students at hand now i'll be back very soon.

oh! who knows whether i won't be back.? i better say this before leaving

that website is not an islamic-oriented web, it's a web which blackmails Islam and Muslims. you can't fool us here.
find solution to your obsolete-book.
goog day.



...who is fooling who here...
you and your boyfriends who "blackmail" Christianity and The Bible...are you Christians?
The point here is as always...you only know what your imam and outaz and The Koran told you...fair enough...Islam has a history and I dont think you know it's history.
 Its better for you to go and study your history very well before you critisize others...
...gone are the days when the true meaning of Islam is hidden behind Arabic texts...




you seem to like this line "gone are the days when the true meaning of Islam is hidden behind Arabic texts..." i've read it twice in you recent comments on different topics; i'm sure it's one of the new tactic you guys think can be successfull in hindering the progress of Islam. tell your pastors, monks and reverend fathers that it can't work because the few Muslims you met know more than you do about the HOly Qur'an both in English and Arabic languages.
concerning that line of yours, i must tell you that Qur'an was never concealed in Arabic language, it's the ignorants one who just woke from their slumbers who just discovered Qur'an has a reliable English-translation. nevertheless, you and other kids like you are still beating about the bush.
Posted: at 3-01-2011 11:07 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 3-01-2011 11:14 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: derbi on  2-01-2011 10:41 AM
Grin Grin so them get diffrend vertion too, but why them no dey let person hear word 4 here they claim na mohamed write all the Quran b4 him die Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
liar, thank GOD you even said it's a claim. Prophet Muhammad neither reads nor write and the compilation of Qur'an did not take place during his lifetime; it was after his death.
Posted: at 3-01-2011 11:14 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- cadanre at 3-01-2011 11:44 AM (10 years ago)
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@ chik00000000000000000000000000001


The truth about the compilation fo the Qur'an.........

The Qur'an is the Holy Book of Islam. It is the word of God revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, over a period of 23 years (from 610 to 633 CE) through the angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an is still in its original form as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

During the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, the Qur'an was mainly preserved through memorization. Hundreds of Companions of the Prophet, were huffaz, or memorizers of the whole Qur'an and had memorized the Qur'an without any mistakes. But the Qur'an was also preserved through writing.

Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, made special arrangements to have it written down. When Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, used to receive a revelation, he dictated it to a Companion, who wrote it down on anything that was available: bark, stone, bones, leaves, etc. The companion then read, what he had written, to the Prophet. If there were any mistakes, Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, would correct it and then let it be brought before everyone. Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, also told the order of the verses, etc, and they were written accordingly.

So, in the days of the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, one copy of the Qur’an existed of what he had gotten written under his personal supervision. It was not in book form but in different parchments. Other Companions also had collections of the Qur'an for their personal record but no standard copy of the Qur'an in book form existed.

Hadith About Reading From a Transcript

Some people argue that the Qur'an was not written at all during the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam. This is not true as there are many Hadith, or sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, that indicate that the Qur'an did exist in written form during the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam. For example, the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, has said:

“If anyone recites the Qur'an without seeing the transcription, the reward is one thousand times, and if he reads it from the transcription, the reward is two thousand times.”

This Hadith shows that Companions did possess written copies of the Quran during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

Compilation in the Khilafah of Abu Bakr

After Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, died in 633 CE, Sayyidna Abu Bakr, Radi-Allahu anhu, became the Khalifah (caliph). The need of the compilation of the whole Qur’an in the form of a Book was seen. In the battle of Yamamah and other battles, many huffaz were martyred. Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, noticed this and went to the Khalifah, and told him about this matter. At first Sayyidna Abu Bakr, Radi-Allahu anhu, hesitated in doing something that the Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, hadn’t done but then, seeing the importance of this, he agreed.

Then Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, was called. Hazrat Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, used to write the Qur'an for the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, during his time. At first, Sayyidna Zayd, Radi-Allahu anhu, refused to do so but then, he, too, agreed.

The compilation of the Qur'an started, with Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, in charge. Lots of companions, including himself had memorized the whole Qur'an and so the Qur'an could have easily been written down from memory. There were also complete collections of the verses of the Holy Qur'an available with many companions. But Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, knew he had to be careful. He used both methods by collecting verses that were written during the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam and also using memory. He followed four steps.

First he verified the verse with his own memory.

Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, who was a Hafiz, was also in charge of the project and he verified it, too.

Then, before the verse could be accepted, the two reliable witnesses had to testify that it was written in the presence of Prophet Muhammad Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

After that, written verses were collated with the collections of different Companions.

The purpose of this method was so that the utmost care be taken in the transcription of the Qur'an, and rather then rely on memory, it should be transcribed from verses that were written in the presence of the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

It was this way that the Qur'an was compiled. In this copy, all Surahs were written separately. The purpose of this transcription was to prepare an organized document with the endorsement of the whole Ummah so that reference could be made to it when required. The transcripts stayed with Sayyidna Abu Bakr, Radi-Allahu anhu. After his death in 634 CE they were passed on to the second Khalifah Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu. And after Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, they were given to his daughter, Hazrat Hafsah, Radi-Allahu anha.

Compilation in the Khilafah of Sayyidna Uthman

When Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, became Khalifah in 644 CE, Islam had spread to far areas such as Iran and Byzantine. People who accepted Islam learned how to read the Qur'an from Muslim soldiers, traders and other Muslims. There are seven different ways to recite the Qur'an and different Companions had learned it from the Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, in different recitals. People though that only their way of reciting was correct and started disputing with other people. Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, accomplished the feat of making the Qur'an’s recitation standard.

First, Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, borrowed the first copy of the Holy Qur'an from Hafsah, Radi-Allahu anha. He then formed a group of four companions, Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Abdullah bin Zubayr, Saeed ibn al Aas, and Abdur Rahman bin Harith Radi-Allahu anhuma. The group had the task of making transcripts of the original copy and also to put the Surahs in sequence. Other companions were also called upon to help them.

After having these standard transcripts prepared, all other transcripts were burnt, so that all copies of the Qur'an become uniform in script and the sequence of Surahs, leaving no room for differences. The copy produced by Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, is still extant. All copies of the Qur'an available today in the world are exactly identical to the Uthmani Version, which was completed less than twenty years after the death of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

Later some improvements were made in the Arabic script, like the adding of dots and diacritical marks, to make it easier for non-Arabs to read, but of course, the text of the Qur'an has remained, and will remain the same forever.

Posted: at 3-01-2011 11:44 AM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- cadanre at 3-01-2011 12:05 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik000000000000000000000000000001

It seems you get some work to do......

There are many areas where your author could not shade more light to. He had forgotten that even at the time when some of the memorizers of the Qur’an died there were many who were still alive up to the time of the compilation and who memorized the whole of it (Qur’an). However, when Sayyidina Zayd Bn Thabit began his work, there were still hundreds of Sahabas who memorized the whole Qur’an and also the written Qur’an which were used to arrived at the Qur’an in its Book Form. This, however, proved your author wrong in saying that some of the texts were missing during the time of the compilation. I am not sure how he managed to get the information he used and where….?

Posted: at 3-01-2011 12:05 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- cadanre at 3-01-2011 12:08 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik000000000000000000001

Kindly take your time, compose yourself and open your mind to understand that your author is playing and deceiving the weak minds like yours.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Qiraat/hafs.html

Posted: at 3-01-2011 12:08 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- chik001 at 3-01-2011 03:27 PM (10 years ago)
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@CANDANRE

The traditional story or claims that the Koran was revealed to Muhammad, written down in bits, and not collated before Muhammad's death.
One major and often un-addressed question is – how much can we rely upon the memories of the early Muslims? Can we assume that they not only remembered everything perfectly, but that they heard and understood Muhammad perfectly in the first place?

Collection under Abu Bakr who was caliph from 632-634. There are several incompatible traditions describing a collation during his reign.
1.  Umar was worried that bits of the Koran would be lost after many Muslims were killed at the Battle of Yamama. Therefore he   commissioned Zaid ibn Thabit to collect the Koran and write it down?
2.  Or was it Abu Bakr's idea? Or maybe 'Ali's?
3.  There are several other difficulties: Could this have been accomplished in only two years? The Muslims were fighting the Battle of Yamama - in Central Asia, why had these new converts memorised the Koran but the Arab converts had not? Why was this collation not an official codex but rather the private property of Hafsa?
It sounds like these traditions were invented to credit the popular Abu Bakr and (more significantly) to debit the much maligned 'Uthman.

Uthman was caliph from 644-656. He was asked for an official codex by one of his generals because the troops were fighting over which reading of the Koran was correct. Zaid was once again commissioned, with the help of three others. But…

1.   The Arabic of the Koran was not a dialect.
2.   There are variations between the number and names of the people working with Zaid. (One version lists somebody already dead at that time!)
3.   In these stories there is no mention of Zaid's involvement in an earlier rescension.
Most scholars discovered that the 'Uthmanic version is correct and the Abu Bakr version is fictitious, but they have no valid reasons for preferring it over the latter, as the same reasons for dismissing the Abu Bakr story is biased, unreliable, late sources, attempts to credit the collector etc…it  can be applied to the 'Uthman story as well.

Posted: at 3-01-2011 03:27 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 3-01-2011 05:38 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: mubaji on  3-01-2011 11:07 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  2-01-2011 10:31 PM
Quote from: mubaji on  2-01-2011 04:45 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 29-12-2010 06:35 PM
Many Muslims have told me that all Qur'ans in the world are exactly the same... and that it is perfectly preserved and free from any variation.
This idea is often said as a way of showing that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Muslims says this because this is what their leaders teach them about the Qur'an and the Bible.

READ MORE ON THESE DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

i've some students at hand now i'll be back very soon.

oh! who knows whether i won't be back.? i better say this before leaving

that website is not an islamic-oriented web, it's a web which blackmails Islam and Muslims. you can't fool us here.
find solution to your obsolete-book.
goog day.



...who is fooling who here...
you and your boyfriends who "blackmail" Christianity and The Bible...are you Christians?
The point here is as always...you only know what your imam and outaz and The Koran told you...fair enough...Islam has a history and I dont think you know it's history.
 Its better for you to go and study your history very well before you critisize others...
...gone are the days when the true meaning of Islam is hidden behind Arabic texts...




you seem to like this line "gone are the days when the true meaning of Islam is hidden behind Arabic texts..." i've read it twice in you recent comments on different topics; i'm sure it's one of the new tactic you guys think can be successfull in hindering the progress of Islam. tell your pastors, monks and reverend fathers that it can't work because the few Muslims you met know more than you do about the HOly Qur'an both in English and Arabic languages.
concerning that line of yours, i must tell you that Qur'an was never concealed in Arabic language, it's the ignorants one who just woke from their slumbers who just discovered Qur'an has a reliable English-translation. nevertheless, you and other kids like you are still beating about the bush.



ALLAHU AKBAR
Posted: at 3-01-2011 05:38 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- chik001 at 3-01-2011 10:48 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  3-01-2011 11:44 AM
@ chik00000000000000000000000000001


The truth about the compilation fo the Qur'an.........

The Qur'an is the Holy Book of Islam. It is the word of God revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, over a period of 23 years (from 610 to 633 CE) through the angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an is still in its original form as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

During the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, the Qur'an was mainly preserved through memorization. Hundreds of Companions of the Prophet, were huffaz, or memorizers of the whole Qur'an and had memorized the Qur'an without any mistakes. But the Qur'an was also preserved through writing.

Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, made special arrangements to have it written down. When Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, used to receive a revelation, he dictated it to a Companion, who wrote it down on anything that was available: bark, stone, bones, leaves, etc. The companion then read, what he had written, to the Prophet. If there were any mistakes, Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, would correct it and then let it be brought before everyone. Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, also told the order of the verses, etc, and they were written accordingly.

So, in the days of the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, one copy of the Qur’an existed of what he had gotten written under his personal supervision. It was not in book form but in different parchments. Other Companions also had collections of the Qur'an for their personal record but no standard copy of the Qur'an in book form existed.

Hadith About Reading From a Transcript

Some people argue that the Qur'an was not written at all during the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam. This is not true as there are many Hadith, or sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, that indicate that the Qur'an did exist in written form during the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam. For example, the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, has said:

“If anyone recites the Qur'an without seeing the transcription, the reward is one thousand times, and if he reads it from the transcription, the reward is two thousand times.”

This Hadith shows that Companions did possess written copies of the Quran during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

Compilation in the Khilafah of Abu Bakr

After Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, died in 633 CE, Sayyidna Abu Bakr, Radi-Allahu anhu, became the Khalifah (caliph). The need of the compilation of the whole Qur’an in the form of a Book was seen. In the battle of Yamamah and other battles, many huffaz were martyred. Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, noticed this and went to the Khalifah, and told him about this matter. At first Sayyidna Abu Bakr, Radi-Allahu anhu, hesitated in doing something that the Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, hadn’t done but then, seeing the importance of this, he agreed.

Then Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, was called. Hazrat Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, used to write the Qur'an for the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, during his time. At first, Sayyidna Zayd, Radi-Allahu anhu, refused to do so but then, he, too, agreed.

The compilation of the Qur'an started, with Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, in charge. Lots of companions, including himself had memorized the whole Qur'an and so the Qur'an could have easily been written down from memory. There were also complete collections of the verses of the Holy Qur'an available with many companions. But Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Radi-Allahu anhu, knew he had to be careful. He used both methods by collecting verses that were written during the time of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam and also using memory. He followed four steps.

First he verified the verse with his own memory.

Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, who was a Hafiz, was also in charge of the project and he verified it, too.

Then, before the verse could be accepted, the two reliable witnesses had to testify that it was written in the presence of Prophet Muhammad Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

After that, written verses were collated with the collections of different Companions.

The purpose of this method was so that the utmost care be taken in the transcription of the Qur'an, and rather then rely on memory, it should be transcribed from verses that were written in the presence of the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

It was this way that the Qur'an was compiled. In this copy, all Surahs were written separately. The purpose of this transcription was to prepare an organized document with the endorsement of the whole Ummah so that reference could be made to it when required. The transcripts stayed with Sayyidna Abu Bakr, Radi-Allahu anhu. After his death in 634 CE they were passed on to the second Khalifah Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu. And after Sayyidna Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, they were given to his daughter, Hazrat Hafsah, Radi-Allahu anha.

Compilation in the Khilafah of Sayyidna Uthman

When Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, became Khalifah in 644 CE, Islam had spread to far areas such as Iran and Byzantine. People who accepted Islam learned how to read the Qur'an from Muslim soldiers, traders and other Muslims. There are seven different ways to recite the Qur'an and different Companions had learned it from the Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, in different recitals. People though that only their way of reciting was correct and started disputing with other people. Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, accomplished the feat of making the Qur'an’s recitation standard.

First, Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, borrowed the first copy of the Holy Qur'an from Hafsah, Radi-Allahu anha. He then formed a group of four companions, Sayyidna Zayd bin Thabit, Abdullah bin Zubayr, Saeed ibn al Aas, and Abdur Rahman bin Harith Radi-Allahu anhuma. The group had the task of making transcripts of the original copy and also to put the Surahs in sequence. Other companions were also called upon to help them.

After having these standard transcripts prepared, all other transcripts were burnt, so that all copies of the Qur'an become uniform in script and the sequence of Surahs, leaving no room for differences. The copy produced by Sayyidna Uthman, Radi-Allahu anhu, is still extant. All copies of the Qur'an available today in the world are exactly identical to the Uthmani Version, which was completed less than twenty years after the death of Prophet Muhammad, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

Later some improvements were made in the Arabic script, like the adding of dots and diacritical marks, to make it easier for non-Arabs to read, but of course, the text of the Qur'an has remained, and will remain the same forever.


Now this is your last paragraph...I quote
"Later some improvements were made in the Arabic script, like the adding of dots and diacritical marks, to make it easier for non-Arabs to read, but of course, the text of the Qur'an has remained, and will remain the same forever..."
the key words here are improvements adding and making it easier for non-arabs...
...because you added dots and diacritical marks, can you still call it the original "word to word" translation ?
The deeper the language is (Arabic) the more difficult it will be for translation...



Posted: at 3-01-2011 10:48 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 3-01-2011 11:47 PM (10 years ago)
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i was here
Posted: at 3-01-2011 11:47 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- cadanre at 4-01-2011 08:18 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik00000000000000001

What you may never understand is Arabic alphabates are different from English alphabets. I am not necessary saying that you should understand me, but, just telling you about the fact. BASMALA can be written without vowels and be read as it is by anybody who has the basic knowledge of Arabic language, to thos who do not understand the language, it may be written with vowels and be read the same way with that which do not hav vowels. If you hear the two people reading it, no difference. IT IS THE SAME BASMALA. Same as the entire Surats and Ayats. But for you who is far from understanding Islam and what it consists, hanging on what the ORIENTALISTS writes for you is OK. HOLD ON TO YOUR BELIEF CHIK00000000000000000000000001. QUR'AN REMAINS QUR'AN AND IT REMAINS THE EVER STANDARD BOOK TO HAVE EVER BEEN IN EXISTENCE.

NO PART OF IT HAS EVER GONE MISSING, NONE. IF THERE IS, I ALREADY CHALENGED YOU TO BRING IT FOR ME TO SEE.

Posted: at 4-01-2011 08:18 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- ajanni at 5-01-2011 12:20 AM (10 years ago)
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barak ALLAHU fik
Posted: at 5-01-2011 12:20 AM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- chik001 at 5-01-2011 12:33 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  4-01-2011 08:18 PM
@ chik00000000000000001

What you may never understand is Arabic alphabates are different from English alphabets. I am not necessary saying that you should understand me, but, just telling you about the fact. BASMALA can be written without vowels and be read as it is by anybody who has the basic knowledge of Arabic language, to thos who do not understand the language, it may be written with vowels and be read the same way with that which do not hav vowels. If you hear the two people reading it, no difference. IT IS THE SAME BASMALA. Same as the entire Surats and Ayats. But for you who is far from understanding Islam and what it consists, hanging on what the ORIENTALISTS writes for you is OK. HOLD ON TO YOUR BELIEF CHIK00000000000000000000000001. QUR'AN REMAINS QUR'AN AND IT REMAINS THE EVER STANDARD BOOK TO HAVE EVER BEEN IN EXISTENCE.

NO PART OF IT HAS EVER GONE MISSING, NONE. IF THERE IS, I ALREADY CHALENGED YOU TO BRING IT FOR ME TO SEE.

I trust you...no be your brother be MARADONA...? I dont think you lot are aware of the history behind your Koran and Islam...
but stay tuned...you might learn something...
Posted: at 5-01-2011 12:33 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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