SHOCKING : HIV AIDS IS A SECRET WEAPON TO KILL AFRICANS (Page 6)

Date: 10-02-2012 8:58 am (12 years ago) | Author: obama
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- kush_360 at 20-02-2012 08:55 AM (12 years ago)
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you answer all questions huh like you did in Horror of DU, Gadhafi's say Israel kill Kennedy, Kemet taught Greeks, Ancient Kemet. and who's shifting ground i bet you are not talking to me, I never shift ground all I did is prove your fact otherwise and you cant defend them. and what's that nonsense about slavery. Europeans didnt take slaves from Afrika. They took free people from Afrika and made them slaves.
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- CammyWhite at 20-02-2012 09:42 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 20-02-2012 08:55 AM
you answer all questions huh like you did in Horror of DU, Gadhafi's say Israel kill Kennedy, Kemet taught Greeks, Ancient Kemet. and who's shifting ground i bet you are not talking to me, I never shift ground all I did is prove your fact otherwise and you cant defend them. and what's that nonsense about slavery. Europeans didnt take slaves from Afrika. They took free people from Afrika and made them slaves.


I gave you a link so that you can do your own research on DU (bet you didn't even bother); Ghadaffi's claims about JFK were barely woth laughing off; and it was never only about Khemet teaching Greeks - it was originally about Khemet being the original civilisations from which all others derived (proved you wrong there) - so you've got nothing to boast about.

http://listverse.com/2009/01/14/10-fascinating-facts-about-slavery/

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/historyonline/slav_fact.cfm

A couple of links about slavery to educate you, and neither is Wikipedia.
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- kush_360 at 20-02-2012 01:19 PM (12 years ago)
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what are you trying to say on DU that's not totally bad or what that DU is a good invention? and its a lie that DU was not used in Iraq? I bet there was investigation on JFK assassination was it concluded? and who were the mastermind and what was there motive? and what is original civilization that Kemet civilization is fake or what? all the post said was Kemet taught Greeks and the Greeks never denied it. are you trying to exonerate the west from the cruelty of slavery? and the link you use again is dumb and base on fallacy slavery began in 1441 when Portuguese captains Antão Gonçalves and Nuno Tristão capture 12 Africans in Cabo Branco (modern Mauritania) and take them to Portugal as slaves. and once again your fact is full of shit..............
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- kush_360 at 20-02-2012 01:29 PM (12 years ago)
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and again you are using an pro american site to find fact about crime committed by america lmao you are so dumb what do you expect  them to say "yea we did it so what" well like they say birds of the same feathers flock together. they are your people you have to support them.
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- CammyWhite at 20-02-2012 01:33 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 20-02-2012 01:19 PM
what are you trying to say on DU that's not totally bad or what that DU is a good invention? and its a lie that DU was not used in Iraq? I bet there was investigation on JFK assassination was it concluded? and who were the mastermind and what was there motive? and what is original civilization that Kemet civilization is fake or what? all the post said was Kemet taught Greeks and the Greeks never denied it. are you trying to exonerate the west from the cruelty of slavery? and the link you use again is dumb and base on fallacy slavery began in 1441 when Portuguese captains Antão Gonçalves and Nuno Tristão capture 12 Africans in Cabo Branco (modern Mauritania) and take them to Portugal as slaves. and once again your fact is full of shit..............

DU is a problem, but less of an immediate problem than (say) unexploded bombs and unmarked land mines.

Separate investigations have concluded that one man and one man alone killed President Kennedy. It's pretty clear that you never got very far.

You originally said that Khemet was the first civilisation and that it was founded by 'blacks'. Neither is true.

Slavery first existed thousands of years ago, ie well before 1441. Ever heard of Spartacus?
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- CammyWhite at 20-02-2012 01:33 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 20-02-2012 01:29 PM
and again you are using an pro american site to find fact about crime committed by america lmao you are so dumb what do you expect  them to say "yea we did it so what" well like they say birds of the same feathers flock together. they are your people you have to support them.

I don't think you did more than glance at it. I'm not surprised.
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- kush_360 at 20-02-2012 02:41 PM (12 years ago)
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oh good lord this bitch is cunning, when we talk of slavery we talk of Afrikan enslavement by west not some Spartacus shit according to the link it said 17th/18th century mark beginning of slavery which is obviously wrong and now you trying to bring in some Spartacus stunt nice try, and concerning DU am not surprise you talk about it like it some mosquito bite it no big deal is it? mind me asking what is the meaning of Kemet? and until any scholar has been able to prove wrong Chiekh Anta Diop and Dr. Obenga that Kemet people were not blacks keep quiet.
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- kush_360 at 20-02-2012 02:49 PM (12 years ago)
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Cheik Anta Diop and Theophile Obenga in Cairo Symposium, held from January 28 – February 3, 1974. The United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) convened 20 of the world’s top Egyptologists to debate the race of the founders of ancient Egyptian civilization. ntil this symposium, it was assumed by the vast majority of European Egyptologists that the ancient Egyptians were either Caucasians or western Asiatics. Outside of Black scholars, few writers in the world agreed that the people of pharaonic Egypt were black Africans. At the Cairo Symposium only two African scholars, Cheikh Anta Diop and Theophilé Obenga, held that the Egyptians were black Africans, while the other participants took opposing positions against the Diop-Obenga thesis. Their scholarly opponents offered virtually no evidence to substantiate the two long-held popular theories of the western Asiatic or Caucasoid origin of the ancient Egyptians. These popular theories certainly needed to be proven, because they are contradicted by all of the objective evidence, such as the temple and tomb reliefs, paintings, sculpture, written records of other nations, linguistic terms, mummy remains, Egyptian customs, and royal and spiritual symbols.

Armed with a formidable body of evidence from numerous academic disciplines, Diop presented specific information to prove the black origins of Kemet (ancient Egypt). It is obvious from the conference report that Diop dominated the proceedings, and confronted with his solid arguments, most of the participants changed their positions during the conference.

Prof. Torgny Save-Soderbergh (Sweden) and other participants argued that the concept of race was now outmoded and not appropriate for characterizing the ancient Egyptians. Prof. Abdelgadir Abdalla (Sudan) stated that it was more important to focus on the ancient Egyptian achievements rather than their race. Prof. G. Ghallab (Egypt) stated that the Egyptians were “Caucasoids.” However, the theory of an ancient population which was “white” with dark or black pigmentation was abandoned during the conference, as there was no evidence given to prove this assertion.

Professors El Nadury (Egypt) and Grottanelli (Italy) argued that the Egyptian population was not a pure race and could only be regarded as “mixed.” Prof. Jean Vercoutter (France) remarked that “Egypt was African in its way of writing, in its culture, and in its way of thinking.” He stated, however, that “the inhabitants of the Nile Valley had always been mixed.”

Prof. Jean Leclant (France) added that there was an “African character in the Egyptian temperament and way of thinking” but that the “unity of the Egyptian people was not racial but cultural.” He stated the civilization was “neither white nor Negro.” Prof. Peter Shinnie (Canada), Vercoutter and others argued that terms such as “black” was too subjective and not well defined.

Dr. Diop protested that these were not positive arguments presenting any evidence, but simply negative statements against his black African origins position. In fact Maurice Glélé, the neutral UNESCO representative, interjected on at least two occasions to state that if classifying people in terms of white, black, or yellow are so debatable and subjective then a revision should be made of the entire terminology of world history to avoid misconceptions. It is clear that the participants abandoned the old Caucasoid and western Asiatic theories and instead retreated to a new “mixed race” position, without presenting any meaningful evidence to support this new theory.

Nevertheless, the conclusion of the official UNESCO report indicates the triumph of Diop and his colleague Obenga. It stated, “Although the preparatory working paper sent out by UNESCO gave particulars of what was desired, not all participants had prepared communications comparable with the painstakingly researched contributions of Professors Cheikh Anta Diop and Obenga. There was consequently a real lack of balance in the discussions.”In laymen terms, Cheikh Anta Diop and Theophilé Obenga gave out an important academic spanking on a world stage. Western Egyptologists now unsuccessfully try and downplay the significance of Diop’s triumph over their colleagues.

In conclusion Diop developed the "melanin dosage test" which allowed him to prove, once and for all, the racial identity of the Ancient Egyptians. This relatively simple test (later adopted by the U.S. forensic department to determine the racial identity of badly burnt accident victims) provided the means by which one could determine the phenotype of the royal mummies by examining the melanin content present within their skin. Although Dr. Diop had proven the viability of the Melanin Dosage Test, the Egyptian government and/or antiquities in Cairo has yet to authorize its use even under the Arab hypocrite Dr.Zahi Hawass who refuses to have any tests done.
1.Evidence from Physical Anthropology
The skeletons and skulls of the Ancient Egyptians clearly reflect they were Negroid people with features very similar to those of modern Black Nubians and other people of the Upper Nile and of East Africa.

2. Melanin Dosage Test
Egyptologist Cheikh Anta Diop invented a method for determining the level of melanin in the skin of human beings. When conducted on Egyptian mummies in the Museum of Man in Paris, this test indicated these remains were of Black people.

3. Osteological Evidence
"Lepsius canon," which distinguishes the bodily proportions of various racial groups categories the "ideal Egyptian" as "short-armed and of Negroid or Negrito physical type."

4. Evidence From Blood Types
Diop notes that even after hundreds of years of inter-mixture with foreign invaders, the blood type of modern Egyptians is the "same group B as the populations of western Africa on the Atlantic seaboard and not the A2 Group characteristic of the white race prior to any crossbreeding."

5. The Egyptians as They Saw Themselves
"The Egyptians had only one term to designate themselves =kmt= the Negroes (literally). This is the strongest term existing in the Pharaonic tongue to indicate blackness; it is accordingly written with a hieroglyph representing a length of wood charred at the end and not crocodile scales," singular. ‘Kmt’ from the adjective =kmt= black; it therefore means strictly Negroes or at the very least black men. The term is a collective noun which thus described the whole people of Pharaonic Egypt as a black people."

6. Divine Epithets
Diop demonstrates that "black or Negro" is the divine epithet invariably used for the chief beneficent Gods of Egypt, while the evil spirits were depicted as red.

7.Evidence From the Bible
The Bible states"
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- CammyWhite at 20-02-2012 09:04 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 20-02-2012 02:41 PM
oh good lord this bitch is cunning, when we talk of slavery we talk of Afrikan enslavement by west not some Spartacus shit according to the link it said 17th/18th century mark beginning of slavery which is obviously wrong and now you trying to bring in some Spartacus stunt nice try, and concerning DU am not surprise you talk about it like it some mosquito bite it no big deal is it? mind me asking what is the meaning of Kemet? and until any scholar has been able to prove wrong Chiekh Anta Diop and Dr. Obenga that Kemet people were not blacks keep quiet.

Slavery existed thousands of yeard ago. It's a fact that you can't shake off, except by 'proving' that it only happened to Africans, but you can't do that. Spartacus led an uprising of slaves 2000 years ago, which in your world can't have happened, only it did.

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mind me asking what is the meaning of Kemet

It refers to the black land, not the people on it.

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until any scholar has been able to prove wrong Chiekh Anta Diop and Dr. Obenga that Kemet people were not blacks keep quiet

I already pointed out the DNA evidence to that effect.

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- kush_360 at 20-02-2012 09:55 PM (12 years ago)
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perhaps you should read the second post
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- CammyWhite at 20-02-2012 11:35 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 20-02-2012 09:55 PM
perhaps you should read the second post

Where did you cut and paste it from?

Also:

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7.Evidence From the Bible
The Bible states"

Now that is just laughable.

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- kush_360 at 21-02-2012 09:38 AM (12 years ago)
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you are a big time liar  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin and a very good propagandist lmao, we were talking of ensalvement of Afrika by west and you cunningly bring dumb ass Spartacus what is my business with him, according to your link slavery started 17th/18century which is clearly falsified, the enslavement of Afrikans was started by Portugal in the 14century fact. I remember you once said there were Eurashit or Euracians among the black people of Kemet now you said your DNA prove they are white DNA change overnight or what? you your self confirmed Kemet means black, the people of Kemet refers themselves as blacks and yet they are white which makes me wonder what kind of white people refers to themselves as blacks yea i got every white refers to themselves as black like you do too you are black aint you.  the Greek people who study in Kemet confirmed they are black and yet your DNA shows they are white, The skeletons and skulls of the Ancient Egyptians clearly reflect they were Negroid people with features very similar to those of modern Black Nubians and other people of the Upper Nile and of East Africa yet your DNA prove they are white, am sure you are just taking me for ride lol
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- CammyWhite at 21-02-2012 09:10 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 21-02-2012 09:38 AM
you are a big time liar  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin and a very good propagandist lmao, we were talking of ensalvement of Afrika by west and you cunningly bring dumb ass Spartacus what is my business with him, according to your link slavery started 17th/18century which is clearly falsified, the enslavement of Afrikans was started by Portugal in the 14century fact. I remember you once said there were Eurashit or Euracians among the black people of Kemet now you said your DNA prove they are white DNA change overnight or what? you your self confirmed Kemet means black, the people of Kemet refers themselves as blacks and yet they are white which makes me wonder what kind of white people refers to themselves as blacks yea i got every white refers to themselves as black like you do too you are black aint you.  the Greek people who study in Kemet confirmed they are black and yet your DNA shows they are white, The skeletons and skulls of the Ancient Egyptians clearly reflect they were Negroid people with features very similar to those of modern Black Nubians and other people of the Upper Nile and of East Africa yet your DNA prove they are white, am sure you are just taking me for ride lol

Spartacus was a Thracian slave under the Roman Empire, which also used African slaves (such as Nubians). There were slaves long before the Americas were settled. That's my point and you keep harping on and on about just one aspect of slavery, forgetting that other races were enslaved and not only by the West or Europeans.

Also, I never said that the Egyptians referred to themselves as White. It's quite probable that the concept of race wasn't even thought of then. They seem from their DNA to have been a mixed race.

You really need to think (and post) more clearly.
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- kush_360 at 21-02-2012 10:01 PM (12 years ago)
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 tell me who conducted that DNA and in what year, the problem i have with you is that you are not straight forward and you shift ground a lot and I understand what you trying to say that everybody enslaved Afrikans why blame the west alone. and you have to be sure of what you are saying not guessing "They seem from their DNA to have been a mixed race." are they mixed or they seem to be mixed?
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- CammyWhite at 22-02-2012 08:44 AM (12 years ago)
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you shift ground a lot


Pot, meet kettle.

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everybody enslaved Afrikans why blame the west alone


Including Egyptians, I might add.

Now, as to Dr Diop:







Are these 'black' or 'white'? I don't think that they're either.

And on that topic, here's a site that had something to say on this topic.

http://www.catchpenny.org/race.html
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- kush_360 at 22-02-2012 09:53 AM (12 years ago)
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the pictures shows they are mixed right? all I see is Affrikan people of Kemet, Melanin Dosage, Osteological Evidence,.Evidence from Physical Anthropology, Evidence From Blood Types, The Egyptians as They Saw Themselves, Testimony of Classical Greek and Roman Authors, Linguistic Unity With Southern and Western Africa. all these evidence prove they Afrikans but your DNA says otherwise now am sure a lunatic conducted the test. and once again you evade questions. who conducted the test and in what year?
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- CammyWhite at 22-02-2012 10:09 AM (12 years ago)
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all I see is Affrikan people of Kemet


There aren't any as 'black' as Dr Diop claimed. He seems to have cherrypicked his examples.

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who conducted the test and in what year?


2005, and read:

http://wysinger.homestead.com/keita6.pdf
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- kush_360 at 22-02-2012 12:18 PM (12 years ago)
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you think he cherrypicked? lol but the world Egyptologist could not prove otherwise, the ancients Greeks and Romans are blind then since they could not differentiate between black and white. I wonder if the Kemet people have eyes because they are white and yet refer to themselves as black, their art prove they are Afrikans, their culture prove they are Afrikan etc. O good lord you know you got me laughing. and pls send me no link just give me the name and the year that all I asked for.
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- PreciousA at 24-02-2012 04:14 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kush_360 on 19-02-2012 02:29 PM
now dont talk shit about slavery... what are you trying to say stupid ass cracker huh.


Please try not to abuse those who disagree with you.

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What these records show is that the modern slave trade flourished in the early middle ages, as early as 869, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms. For moralists, the most important aspect of that trade should be that Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people. In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves. Contrary to legends and novels and Hollywood movies, the white traders did not need to savagely kill entire tribes in order to exact their tribute in slaves. All they needed to do is bring goods that appealed to the kings of those tribes. The kings would gladly sell their own subjects. (Of course, this neither condones the white traders who bought the slaves nor deny that many white traders still committed atrocities to maximize their business).


http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html

I notice you're backing off on your foolish HIV claims and now talking about the racial make-up of the ancient Egyptians.
Or have I misunderstood you?
Are you claiming the Egyptians invented HIV now?
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- kush_360 at 25-02-2012 07:04 PM (12 years ago)
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this is the reason am allergic to dumb people they dont read.... read read read before you comment
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